SE, no effort anywhere lately.

[LianaThorne]

Holy shit, I might actually give PSO2NGS a try..

This is nuts. It's basically the Wildstar housing on crack. https://youtu.be/trF_JC4_muE

As someone who plays NGS, I wouldn't recommend it unless you're into nothing but soul-sucking mob grinds for months on end with an extremely subpar story and disgustingly low drop rates on things you actually need. The market is also incredibly inflated so unless you feed(throw your money at) the gacha machine and sell items from that (which requires a shop pass you either get from the monthly pass/forking over your credit card for premium), you're gonna struggle to make decent meseta in a quick timeframe to actually afford phashion (at least the good stuff) and such regularly. The housing coming is awesome and many are excited for it but the game itself is still in a somewhat bad shape for actually playing and getting engaged with it (although I will say the Kvaris region was decent).

[Axxion]

As someone who plays NGS, I wouldn't recommend it unless you're into nothing but soul-sucking mob grinds for months on end with an extremely subpar story and disgustingly low drop rates on things you actually need. The market is also incredibly inflated so unless you feed(throw your money at) the gacha machine and sell items from that (which requires a shop pass you either get from the monthly pass/forking over your credit card for premium), you're gonna struggle to make decent meseta in a quick timeframe to actually afford phashion (at least the good stuff) and such regularly. The housing coming is awesome and many are excited for it but the game itself is still in a somewhat bad shape for actually playing and getting engaged with it (although I will say the Kvaris region was decent).

I also play pso what ship are you on? if the markets bad

[CStrife912]

As someone who plays NGS, I wouldn't recommend it unless you're into nothing but soul-sucking mob grinds for months on end with an extremely subpar story and disgustingly low drop rates on things you actually need. The market is also incredibly inflated so unless you feed(throw your money at) the gacha machine and sell items from that (which requires a shop pass you either get from the monthly pass/forking over your credit card for premium), you're gonna struggle to make decent meseta in a quick timeframe to actually afford phashion (at least the good stuff) and such regularly. The housing coming is awesome and many are excited for it but the game itself is still in a somewhat bad shape for actually playing and getting engaged with it (although I will say the Kvaris region was decent).

Also from what I gather it will be heavily monetised down the road no doubt that and the game is borderline maintenance for how little they update or add to the game. It has a lot of potential but a lot of it just wasted in my eyes.

[TomsYoungerBro]

I talk to people on pso2 ngs who play ff14 and were all confused at what you guys are complaining about mind you.

this is what we call "confirmation bias"

[RyuDragnier]

Also from what I gather it will be heavily monetised down the road no doubt that and the game is borderline maintenance for how little they update or add to the game. It has a lot of potential but a lot of it just wasted in my eyes.

On the bright side, base PSO2 is still there, and the story is worth playing. Episode 1 is basically like ARR with a lot of buildup that doesn't seem to do much, Episode 2 slaps you with "you thought all that stuff was unimportant? THINK AGAIN!" Episode 3 puts a nice bow on a trilogy style story. Episode 4 is...please, we don't speak of Episode 4 (especially...her. We do not need to summon the superboss here). Episode 5 is a mixed bag, with the first half being a love letter to the original Phantasy Star, and the 2nd half actually being plot relevant to the overarching story. Episode 6 is the grand finale that just screams badass with some of the best music in the game and the best urgents (Armada of Destruction is amazing mecha action).

[CStrife912]

On the bright side, base PSO2 is still there, and the story is worth playing. Episode 1 is basically like ARR with a lot of buildup that doesn't seem to do much, Episode 2 slaps you with "you thought all that stuff was unimportant? THINK AGAIN!" Episode 3 puts a nice bow on a trilogy style story. Episode 4 is...please, we don't speak of Episode 4 (especially...her. We do not need to summon the superboss here). Episode 5 is a mixed bag, with the first half being a love letter to the original Phantasy Star, and the 2nd half actually being plot relevant to the overarching story. Episode 6 is the grand finale that just screams badass with some of the best music in the game and the best urgents (Armada of Destruction is amazing mecha action).

I need to get round to playing the base one...its like I love the gameplay of the older one but like the more open level design of new genesis. I will go back through it though at some point! I mean 7.0 could be this games version of New Genesis and you can play one or the other. I don't see why they couldn't allow people to start at the new point, maybe give them a rundown of the plot in a loose fashion and then use their unending codex they put into the game to put the lore and character info in for more in depth reading. On top of that new game plus if you want to experience what happened before all this.

[Xeronia]

I don't know how this became a PSO2:NGS discussion but you can get over 100k a day just via picking up money items out in the world in 3 of the 4 zones. Add in any money from dailies/events you make and if you use the personal shop passes well the game requires no money investment. Anything on the AC scratch you can just buy off the personal shop and the only thing I really spend SG on is material storage(which the game is pretty generous with via events). The thing i have to stress is the game is still a Phantasy Star Online game so it is still very much focused on grinds much like it's predecessors. I will say it is a very good filler game if you need one and it is free.

[RyuDragnier]

I need to get round to playing the base one...its like I love the gameplay of the older one but like the more open level design of new genesis. I will go back through it though at some point! I mean 7.0 could be this games version of New Genesis and you can play one or the other. I don't see why they couldn't allow people to start at the new point, maybe give them a rundown of the plot in a loose fashion and then use their unending codex they put into the game to put the lore and character info in for more in depth reading. On top of that new game plus if you want to experience what happened before all this.

That's part of why I hope it's in the New World with a brand new story, new character, and a new leveling system. You won't need to know anything that happened prior, there's room for new surprises, and even jobs we thought couldn't be added could possibly be added due to how different things could work in the New World. Example, classic Geomancer may be in the New World. While in Hingashi it's basically AST by another name, in the New World it could be that old school "here, let me bind you up in these plants or whip up quicksand" style Geomancer.

[Padudu]

"This game isn't in maint"

Yes it is

Mmm, I disagree just slightly. We're still getting patch updates, just minimal ones. We're close to maint mode, but we're not quite there. I think maybe more appropriately it's in a stale state and it doesn't look like it's getting unstale anytime soon

[CStrife912]

Mmm, I disagree just slightly. We're still getting patch updates, just minimal ones. We're close to maint mode, but we're not quite there. I think maybe more appropriately it's in a stale state and it doesn't look like it's getting unstale anytime soon

I just can't fathom where the logic leap is for maintenance mode...people haven't clearly been playing games which are abandoned. The updates they provide extend beyond end game and cater to all play groups from the beginning of the game to the end. Providing new servers and data centers (more coming this summer NA/EU) to doing a new expansion and visual upgrade and comment that it will continue to be upgrading assets through the 7.x cycle...they delayed patches by 2 weeks or 3 if it falls on a holiday so staff can get more time to not crunch and have holidays. Granted the only thing I will counter my claim on is the bugginess of certain aspects (quickly remedied but it seems QA needs more people) The game is 10 years old not 2 like New World...have you seen the roadmap for the next year of New World...14 has much much more going on.