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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    15 Dailies is a lot per tribe.

    Would be much better if they reduced it to 3 Dailies and added all the rewards from 15 into them like later Tribe quests.
    OP that doesn't make sense. As then you would have to boost the reputation gain as well unless you only wanted 3 quests per day at the current reputation gains.

    Amaljaa, Sylph, Sahagin, and Kobold only take 23 days and thats if your only doing 3 quests a day that reward the most rep.

    The Ixal take 37 days but that is assuming your only doing the 3 highest rewarding rep quests a day.

    Beast Tribe quests from HW to EW is actually slower as they take 31 days to complete.

    The ARR ones can be sped up by giving them more quests. Like lets say your doing Sylph. Your on Rank 3. You are going from 0 to 510 rep to max them out. You can take 3 quests per day that reward 20 each, 60 in total, or you can do 9 of their quests that reward 132 in total. The difference is by only taking 3 quests it takes you 9 days to cap them for example, while taking 9 quests caps their reputation in 4 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    OP that doesn't make sense. As then you would have to boost the reputation gain as well unless you only wanted 3 quests per day at the current reputation gains.

    Amaljaa, Sylph, Sahagin, and Kobold only take 23 days and thats if your only doing 3 quests a day that reward the most rep.

    The Ixal take 37 days but that is assuming your only doing the 3 highest rewarding rep quests a day.

    Beast Tribe quests from HW to EW is actually slower as they take 31 days to complete.

    The ARR ones can be sped up by giving them more quests. Like lets say your doing Sylph. Your on Rank 3. You are going from 0 to 510 rep to max them out. You can take 3 quests per day that reward 20 each, 60 in total, or you can do 9 of their quests that reward 132 in total. The difference is by only taking 3 quests it takes you 9 days to cap them for example, while taking 9 quests caps their reputation in 4 days.
    Don't forget how we only had 6 daily allowances originally back in ARR, so if you started when there were 5 tribes, it took forever to actually get them done.

    And if you do others at the same time when at lower ranks, it overall feels like you spend less time doing the ARR tribes, most so with 12 allowances.... in areas that we couldn't fly in originally... and that had pretty slow mounts when on the ground.

    Honestly though people should probably work on the more current/most wanted to complete tribes first, then worry about the others after. I see no reason to change the ARR tribes really
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    OP that doesn't make sense. As then you would have to boost the reputation gain as well unless you only wanted 3 quests per day at the current reputation gains.

    Amaljaa, Sylph, Sahagin, and Kobold only take 23 days and thats if your only doing 3 quests a day that reward the most rep.

    The Ixal take 37 days but that is assuming your only doing the 3 highest rewarding rep quests a day.

    Beast Tribe quests from HW to EW is actually slower as they take 31 days to complete.

    The ARR ones can be sped up by giving them more quests. Like lets say your doing Sylph. Your on Rank 3. You are going from 0 to 510 rep to max them out. You can take 3 quests per day that reward 20 each, 60 in total, or you can do 9 of their quests that reward 132 in total. The difference is by only taking 3 quests it takes you 9 days to cap them for example, while taking 9 quests caps their reputation in 4 days.
    Ranking up the original four factions by spending 9 allowances on one faction results in a slower completion than doing only the 3 top tier quests for each faction simultaneously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Ranking up the original four factions by spending 9 allowances on one faction results in a slower completion than doing only the 3 top tier quests for each faction simultaneously.
    Unless you decide to focus on one at a time, which is what I personally did when I was leveling them. Either way it takes a long time to complete each of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Unless you decide to focus on one at a time, which is what I personally did when I was leveling them. Either way it takes a long time to complete each of them.
    If you do them one at a time, the time it takes you to complete all four tribes will be longer than if you worked on all four tribes at the same time. This is because if you focus on a single tribe, 6 of the 9 allowances you spend on that tribe each day are worth less than the maximum points. If you do four tribes at once, all 12 of the allowances you spend will be worth the maximum points. Therefore, working on all four at once results in a faster total completion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    If you do them one at a time, the time it takes you to complete all four tribes will be longer than if you worked on all four tribes at the same time. This is because if you focus on a single tribe, 6 of the 9 allowances you spend on that tribe each day are worth less than the maximum points. If you do four tribes at once, all 12 of the allowances you spend will be worth the maximum points. Therefore, working on all four at once results in a faster total completion.
    I'm gonna start ARR tribals soon.

    So the most efficient path is to do Amaljaa, Sylphs, Kobolds and Sahagin at the same time instead of focus only one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratini View Post
    I'm gonna start ARR tribals soon.

    So the most efficient path is to do Amaljaa, Sylphs, Kobolds and Sahagin at the same time instead of focus only one?
    Yes. Unlike the tribes from HW onward, the quests available at different ranks are worth different amounts: 10, 14, 20. If you do all four tribes concurrently, all twelve allowances will always be worth the maximum points: 12x10 at rank 1, 12x14 at rank 2, 12x20 at rank 3. But if you focus on one, you will only get 3x10 + 3x14 + 3x20 or 132 points for 9 allowances at rank 3, which requires 36% more work to get the same amount of points you would be getting by working on multiple rank 3 tribes at once.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 03-16-2023 at 08:32 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    OP that doesn't make sense. As then you would have to boost the reputation gain as well unless you only wanted 3 quests per day at the current reputation gains.

    Amaljaa, Sylph, Sahagin, and Kobold only take 23 days and thats if your only doing 3 quests a day that reward the most rep.

    The Ixal take 37 days but that is assuming your only doing the 3 highest rewarding rep quests a day.

    Beast Tribe quests from HW to EW is actually slower as they take 31 days to complete.

    The ARR ones can be sped up by giving them more quests. Like lets say your doing Sylph. Your on Rank 3. You are going from 0 to 510 rep to max them out. You can take 3 quests per day that reward 20 each, 60 in total, or you can do 9 of their quests that reward 132 in total. The difference is by only taking 3 quests it takes you 9 days to cap them for example, while taking 9 quests caps their reputation in 4 days.
    That is excessive. They shouldn't take anywhere near that long anymore.
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