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    Yoshida has said multiple statements over the years that didn't really happen. Just to name a few examples:
    1. FC Housing and Personal Housing being a separate thing.
    2. Free Companies being able to summon primals out in the open world.
    3. Hrothgar and Viera having unique hairstyles in the future to compensate for the lack of headgear.

    I can probably find a few other examples, but I remembered those off the top of my head.

    Which is why I take everything he says with a huge grain of salt. Including the old "take a break" quote people like to treat as gospel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    The saddest part is, aside from the actual graphics FF16 looks extremely mid at best lol.
    I am hoping it fails. I love SE to officially go out of business. We all know Sony couldn't revive SE if they even tried
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raskbuck View Post
    Yoshida has said multiple statements over the years that didn't really happen. Just to name a few examples:
    1. FC Housing and Personal Housing being a separate thing.
    2. Free Companies being able to summon primals out in the open world.
    3. Hrothgar and Viera having unique hairstyles in the future to compensate for the lack of headgear.

    I can probably find a few other examples, but I remembered those off the top of my head.

    Which is why I take everything he says with a huge grain of salt. Including the old "take a break" quote people like to treat as gospel.
    1) Wait...isnt it?
    Arnt there FC Housing Lots separate from Player Housing?
    Might be something I misunderstood here.

    2) WHAT? This sounds like some 1.0 Legacy Crap. Ive Never heard that, but that is certainly a head-turner

    3) I..stillk wanna snort Hopium they intend on doing this, just they have a boat-load of other things taking Priorty.
    But hey, who knows.

    I hold firm to "Take a Break" because it makes perfect sense, and thats been a tagline for over a decade....if its really that questionable and bad as some people like to treat it, FFXIV should have gone down by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    she didnt quit...
    I hope she does. Crocodile tears and cons viewers to get her stuff in game when RNG is bad to her
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    I am hoping it fails. I love SE to officially go out of business. We all know Sony couldn't revive SE if they even tried
    Why is it you want the company to fail outright? They've created quality games before and can do so again. If they fail entirely we lose that potential, is this just a desire to watch the world burn? For all my criticisms of Yoshi and SE I've made in this thread it comes from a place of wanting the game to return to form such as we had in the 5.X cycle. It isn't because I think the game is dying or want it to die so I'm having a hard time understanding your mindset here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    1) Wait...isnt it?
    Arnt there FC Housing Lots separate from Player Housing?
    Might be something I misunderstood here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.
    As it stands today, both FC Housing and Personal Housing use the exact same system, with the same pricing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    2) WHAT? This sounds like some 1.0 Legacy Crap. Ive Never heard that, but that is certainly a head-turner
    Quote Originally Posted by IGN
    Perhaps most interesting is what Square Enix is doing with summons. Instead of giving every player the ability to summon primals like Ifrit or Shiva, there will only be one Ifrit per server. “The players will get together in their Free Companies [guilds] and they will fight Ifrit. If they defeat him, they will get the opportunity to summon him once. That Free Company will get to decide where and when to use him. Then Ifrit goes out to another place in the world for other people to go get him, so it’s like this competition between people in the world. This won’t be instanced, this will be public content, so anyone in the world can do it.” Until Ifrit is summoned, no other player group will be able to summon him. When Ifrit is actually brought into a fight it seems like nearly everyone in the server will know, because the skies will turn red. Then once the skies clear, you’ll know Ifrit is again available to defeat and acquire. “The whole world is involved in the summoning of these monsters.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denhith View Post
    CC is far from dead and it has in fact revived PvP in this game. During most times of the day your queue is going to be less than 5 min even now, when most folks have already got the rank they want for the current patch. If anything, CC has become the gap filler between patches when the rest of the content has been done and folks are waiting on the next one to drop. The addition of series/seasons and the reward track was an excellent addition as well.

    The only thing wrong with the Criterion Dungeons was the rewards. The content itself was far from "lazy".

    Given that an additional limited job wasn't even mention during the "next 10 years in FFXIV" broadcast, don't bet on another limited job. It's very niche and probably not worth the development resources. At most, we will get Blue Mage "updates" once every expansion cycle. We can probably except something for Blue Mage between 6.4 and 6.5. And I'm perfectly fine with that.

    Have you done all 100 floors of the new DD? It's quite literally the best iteration of Deep Dungeon content we have got so far.

    In regards to the relic weapon...no one is playing the game "casually" and finishing the relic weapon on multiple jobs in a SINGLE DAY. Maybe the first one, because you were prudent and saved up on tomestones but after that...not a chance.
    getting Materia was lazy. What made them think "oh boy they will really like this materia" WRONG how about some good gear or weapon for a reward
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selsix View Post
    Why is it you want the company to fail outright? They've created quality games before and can do so again. If they fail entirely we lose that potential, is this just a desire to watch the world burn? For all my criticisms of Yoshi and SE I've made in this thread it comes from a place of wanting the game to return to form such as we had in the 5.X cycle. It isn't because I think the game is dying or want it to die so I'm having a hard time understanding your mindset here.
    Last time they ever made anything good was in the PS1 and PS2 era after that they went downhill
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    I do not see the content they have brought about in 6.1 to 6.3 as lesser, there are a lot of factors here.

    1) They have enough variety just haven't nailed the reward system for some of them and if the next variant and island sanctuary updates knock them down then its a success in the long term

    2) Not all content is catered to us... resources are finite just because its not gone to endgame doesn't mean they are lazy. Reworking the trusts into past dungeons and in some cases reworking dungeon layouts or redesigning bosses isn't a straightforward process. They need new players to survive just as much as the veterans, you can only get so much from people who have played since launch..people move on with real-life commitments or develop other interests to name a few. On top of those changes reworking castrum and prae, remaking fights once trials now solo duties...it takes time and work. PvP rework was massive in the grand scheme of things and allocated visual asset time to making maps and gear specifically for it... not only assets there but assets for island sanctuary and in 6.4 the island sanctuary expansion which we have been told is a new area. On top of assets for the variant dungeon too...like its a lot of asset creation that was in this instance taken from the relic exploratory zone.

    3) He hasn't lied per say but then I will say he hasn't come out and changed his mind, its very easy in your schedule to say I plan to do XYZ and in the end only make X....stuff changes, goals shift and priorities change. Stuff can happen, just depends when those prioritises shift.

    4) 16 I doubt had a big impact on anything as my points mention above...go to December 21st on the 16 twitter where he posts that the game is about 5-7 months behind schedule in covid because of them waiting for the delivery of assets from outside contractors or in some cases had asset deliveries canceled... its not all in house. They have contractors from across the globe likely helping them.

    5) Think about this too... Heavensward...patch content....stormblood...patch content....shadowbringers....some patch content and during that time 16 was in a production full swing too was made by them during the time it took for business division 1 to announce they're making FF7 remake PART 1 to its release in April 2020. This team is efficient for the most part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denhith View Post
    Here's the thing...there might be a valid discussion around the topic of whether or not FF16 affected the development cycle of FF14. But if you want to have an adult conversation about it, you don't use click bait forum threads "Yoshi-P Lied!" and give zero data and heaps of hyperbole to back up your claim. I see a lot of "this was lazy", "that was lazy"...it just comes across like someone has spent too long in the dark corners of reddit, drank the kool-aid and decided to bring it over to the official forum.
    or is so high on the breadcrumbs of what you are given you became blind into seeing the content has become less, the rewards lackluster yet people like you act like Yoshida did nothing wrong and makes a perfect MMO
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