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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    And if it is my game? It's also a lot of people's end-game in an MMO. You know, the social part of the MMORPG.

    What's wrong with that? The idea that I want to keep MY end-game, while also taking a break. Requires I stay subbed.

    Why do I need to be attacked over my idea of an end-game? I'm not attacking you or the things you enjoy.
    Your not being attacked (at least not by me) so stop it. LoL
    All I said was, its weird to feel Shackled to a Game you arnt playing, and to pay for a Game you arnt enjoying, all for a House.
    And remember, I was talking to @Shinkuno when I said this. I didnt even direct it at you.
    Also, if you missed it or chose to ignore it, I agree that the Housing system is pretty Garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Your not being attacked (at least not by me) so stop it. LoL
    All I said was, its weird to feel Shackled to a Game you arnt playing, and to pay for a Game you arnt enjoying, all for a House.
    And remember, I was talking to @Shinkuno when I said this. I didnt even direct it at you.
    Also, if you missed it or chose to ignore it, I agree that the Housing system is pretty Garbage.
    I forgive you. And yeah it is weird to feel shackled to something like that. But unfortunately that's the game to a lot of people even if you or others may not feel that way.

    Just as I don't do Ultimates, I wouldn't say "Yeah but only 1% of people do Ultimates, so who cares if they stop making it".

    I like that people like XIV and the different ways people play it. I'm not going around attacking anyone's likes. But it definitely feels like some people are taking it personally for me saying some things just straight up suck as they currently are and need to get better. We need to voice opinions or nothing will be done.

    If people stop to think for a minute - We're not telling people they can't enjoy shit. We're not saying that you shouldn't get what you like. We're saying what we're not getting is all. Not what you did get.
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    Last edited by R041; 03-12-2023 at 05:22 AM.

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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Midareyukki, this is one thing I'm never going to budge on because we both know SE isn't going to get a proper system for housing because they would have already done so if they were planning to (Island Sanctuary SHOULD have been it). Because we're stuck with the system as is, people need to abuse what they know about it so they CAN take breaks and still keep the house. For god's sake man, you've already seen them cut corners with Hrothgar, you already know they ain't gonna give us a proper housing system.
    Okay Sure. I can get on board with that. Hell, I don't have any hope on SE to do anything right anymore, but... who knows, a broken clock is right twice a day as they say, so eh.
    Who knows. Some features got added into the game after popular demand, after all.

    Plus, I'm speaking from my own experience and opinion here. So it's naturally biased. For ME, the restriction really does suck, and they should remove it. But at the same time, I understand there's no better alternative. People abuse the system because the system is abuseable. Had they made it be like Moghouse or Island Sanctuary a lot sooner, things would be fine. It'd be one house per player, no questions asked. What we got is this plot system, which is inherently abuseable and hard to control as it stands.

    And unlike so many players, I actually do make regular use of my house. Sometimes I make stuff for linkshells with it, so it's open to the community at those times. I'd kinda rather not see it go to waste. I do put in value in it, and getting it back would really, really suck. It's not even just "one of the few things keeping me in this game", because there's other stuff for sure. But the blow I'd personally feel would honestly make me not want to pick up FF14 again. That's not me clutching pearls or feeling like everything is lost, but it'd definitely be a major bummer and it'd be the straw that'd break the camel's back. Simply because of all the bull I keep seeing the game go through. Hrothgars, for example, as you've said. So yes, I do put in some value into the game. Is it warranted? Probably not! But hey, it's there, judge it as you will. But that alone isn't the problem I have.

    Currently I'm not playing the game; I can access it, but I have a problem with my hand and I can't play effectively. FF14 is just pretty glamour and a chatbox, not because I'm done with the game, but because I physically can't play it |D
    Holding a mouse is not ideal, and I don't have a controller. Don't even think a controller would work either. I can just write. With one hand.
    And I kinda would like to have time to recover. It feels really bad feeling like I need to pay a sub when I can't play the game just for a house. Sure it's 45 days, but idk when this will be better by then. It'd be 30 more days that I probably wouldn't be able to play. And to me that kinda sucks.

    But that's my perspective on it. I just don't think explaining how the impact I'd feel for losing a house and the value I'd lose for losing a Medium plot means I'm "clutching pearls" xD It's not the same thing. It does feel like losing a Necromancer title. I can get it back I guess? Eventually, but I'd spend a lot of time getting it back, and idk if I'd even be able to. It's luck-based now, but I've played enough gachas to know my luck doesn't exist xD

    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Oh you're homeless? Why don't you just buy a home?

    Same dumb argument.
    Okay, now I don't think this is a good comparison...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    All I said was, its weird to feel Shackled to a Game you arnt playing, and to pay for a Game you arnt enjoying, all for a House.
    Yeah this is what I was getting at with my other post.

    I wasn't attacking you either. I don't even think I was being aggressive? xD Just that from the perspective of someone who does feel like they have to go through this just to keep their house, if you do put value in it, it does feel like an undeserved stepback. Like you actively need to show interest in the game when what you want is to take a break longer than 45 days. Again: you're right, it isn't healthy. But that's not just a player problem, that's a Square Enix-driven problem.
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    Player R041's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Okay, now I don't think this is a good comparison...
    I mean it's not on the same exact level. But it's telling someone to do the impossible. Like unsubbing for 4mo when you have a Gilgamesh Large. lol
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