Well I think we at a new low .

[Raoabolic]

all of 6.3 over all. you can hear "next patch be it" so much before you start to hate it

Can't blame SE when they can ignore the forums for "social media" and have plenty of "fans" who dismiss any criticism as trolling and whining. At this point we are in the beginning of the fall of WoW phase. Sorry you jumped in so late, but just sit back, crack a joke or two, and watch when people slowly go "What happened?" when "influencers" start telling others that the game is not a perfect 10/10. Yoshida really did want to copy WoW down to a fault! lol

[IkaraGreydancer]

Can't blame SE when they can ignore the forums for "social media" and have plenty of "fans" who dismiss any criticism as trolling and whining. At this point we are in the beginning of the fall of WoW phase. Sorry you jumped in so late, but just sit back, crack a joke or two, and watch when people slowly go "What happened?" when "influencers" start telling others that the game is not a perfect 10/10. Yoshida really did want to copy WoW down to a fault! lol

Man do I love me some doom posting. Also it's already been proven they do listen to the forums. People get this misconception that they just don't read anything here. They do, they just choose not to act on the whims of NA forums (for good reason with how some of yall act). JP forums seem much more respectful in that aspect so it's no wonder that they get listened to more.

But yeah let's just blame social media and the the folks who dare like the game n not look at ourselves n what we could change. Much easier. If it's really THAT many fans that are somehow "killing" your criticism maybe just maybe...the game is doing better than you think. I'm not saying either or, just going off what you're presenting.

Btw we've been at "the fall of WoW phase" since ShB from what I remember seeing. And yall said it with EW n yall will say it again in 7.0. One day you'll be right

[Raoabolic]

But yeah let's just blame social media and the the folks who dare like the game n not look at ourselves n what we could change.

But addons are against the ToS. :^)
Also, the masses were happy enough with lootboxes so I wonder why the government had to go and take that away? Come on, are you really going to use the masses are always right as an argument? I guess the new Saints Row reboot was really successful then~! lmao

[IkaraGreydancer]

But addons are against the ToS. :^)
Also, the masses were happy enough with lootboxes so I wonder why the government had to go and take that away? Come on, are you really going to use the masses are always right as an argument? I guess the new Saints Row reboot was really successful then~! lmao

I'm not saying the masses are always right. I'm saying something must be right IF that many people are still enjoying it in the sense of a game. Youre trying to equate liking a video game to gambling to prove a point when those dont equate. I think Fortnite is a trash game, yet player count says otherwise. Theyre doing SOMETHING right thats keeping people coming back. XIV must be as well. Also sorry but Saint Rows wasn't liked by the masses so that comparison is rather dumb. That game flopped, xiv hasn't.

And Kosa I did say seem. I'm going based on what I've seen myself. And things do seem to have a far more positive spin over there compared to here. (That doesn't negate the existence of said other sites you mentioned to be clear).

[R041]

And Kosa I did say seem. I'm going based on what I've seen myself. And things do seem to have a far more positive spin over there compared to here. (That doesn't negate the existence of said other sites you mentioned to be clear).

Because the JP side of the FFXIV forum is basically dead. I'm not trying to be rude here, their forum is like 1/4th the engagement as the English side as far as I'm aware. Sometimes we even have 10x more engagement. So of course you're going to see generally more clashing.

Check it out, look at the actual post count.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...English-Forums
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...apanese-Forums

They just don't post here. They have different social media they post in, just like we do. Unfortunately for us r/XIV and r/XIVDiscussion are so heavily moderated, they delete almost anything that talks bad about XIV. So it skews the 'Doom' on these forums overall. We know we can get away with it, regardless if any dev reads our posts. I don't care if a dev reads my post, I'm trying to engage with the community I pay a monthly sub for without being moderated by psychos.

[Kosachi]

Man do I love me some doom posting. Also it's already been proven they do listen to the forums. People get this misconception that they just don't read anything here. They do, they just choose not to act on the whims of NA forums (for good reason with how some of yall act). JP forums seem much more respectful in that aspect so it's no wonder that they get listened to more.

As someone who reads and speaks Japanese, I can assure you that the JP community isn't very nice either. The difference is that they don't complain on the forums and that is reflected by how low the traffic is on that side of the site. They instead choose to voice their ire on 5ch and the stuff they say on there would make a sailor blush.

[Raoabolic]

As someone who reads and speaks Japanese, I can assure you that the JP community isn't very nice either. The difference is that they don't complain on the forums and that is reflected by how low the traffic is on that side of the site. They instead choose to voice their ire on 5ch and the stuff they say on there would make a sailor blush.

Hey, don't talk mess about 5ch. It's refreshing to see someone's unfiltered opinion!

[magitekLuna]

Man do I love me some doom posting. Also it's already been proven they do listen to the forums. People get this misconception that they just don't read anything here. They do, they just choose not to act on the whims of NA forums (for good reason with how some of yall act). JP forums seem much more respectful in that aspect so it's no wonder that they get listened to more.

But yeah let's just blame social media and the the folks who dare like the game n not look at ourselves n what we could change. Much easier. If it's really THAT many fans that are somehow "killing" your criticism maybe just maybe...the game is doing better than you think. I'm not saying either or, just going off what you're presenting.

Btw we've been at "the fall of WoW phase" since ShB from what I remember seeing. And yall said it with EW n yall will say it again in 7.0. One day you'll be right

yes we was there from mid ShB. WOW take 2-3 expansions to get to where it is now.

[R041]

People get this misconception that they just don't read anything here. They do, they just choose not to act on the whims of NA forums (for good reason with how some of yall act). JP forums seem much more respectful in that aspect so it's no wonder that they get listened to more.

These takes are so weird and delusional. You're mixing your feelings with the community and the actual developer engagement. You live in such a strange fantasy.

[magitekLuna]

Can't blame SE when they can ignore the forums for "social media" and have plenty of "fans" who dismiss any criticism as trolling and whining. At this point we are in the beginning of the fall of WoW phase. Sorry you jumped in so late, but just sit back, crack a joke or two, and watch when people slowly go "What happened?" when "influencers" start telling others that the game is not a perfect 10/10. Yoshida really did want to copy WoW down to a fault! lol

ye we are just thee. and i am not late not my first character . was paying from 2.0 beta more or less, stop here and there.