Question for the people who don't dislike the 2nd relic step

[RyuDragnier]

Or they just cant be arsed with people like you and others who are ready to do anything to defend this company's laziness

Yoshi-P: "We're modeling this relic's steps after the ARR and HW relics."
ARR/HW Relics: *has easy 2nd step*
You: "OMG THE DEVS ARE BEING LAZY!"

[IkaraGreydancer]

ppl responding to me with thousands of forum posts i do not care what u say. obv u are not playing the game you just live on forums.

Or or or...get this. I'm not playing xiv atm. I don't live n breathe the game. Many of us have been around for year at it takes MAYBE a few minutes to make a post. Imagine using people post number to determine if they play a game...if ANYTHING the smart move would be to check lodestones not post count.

Also folks you should understand by now Stormy is only here to antagonize any and everyone that likes aspects they don't when it comes to the game. They'll keep paying SE though despite that so keep that in mind

[Stormpeaks]

Or or or...get this. I'm not playing xiv atm. I don't live n breathe the game. Many of us have been around for year at it takes MAYBE a few minutes to make a post. Imagine using people post number to determine if they play a game...if ANYTHING the smart move would be to check lodestones not post count.

Also folks you should understand by now Stormy is only here to antagonize any and everyone that likes aspects they don't when it comes to the game. They'll keep paying SE though despite that so keep that in mind

I do housing in FFXIV, that's mainly what I do, why wouldnt I be happy and why would I unsubscribe ?

[HeyMcFly]

In the future, relic should be tied behind doing the new event map & the rewards in doing the fates in those new maps should be better than running old content.
I don't pay a sub to run crystal tower raids every day. I pay a sub to keep my house, to post about making much needed improvements to housing & character customization & to play new expansions until I'm burned out. Not run old content to get materials for items in the new content.

In WoW, you don't go back to ice crown to farm items in dragonflight. When Bozja was released, I was taken aback when getting memories from the bozja fates wasn't guaranteed but going into ARR/ HW maps getting those memories was guaranteed. What a backwards way of trying to get players to play your new content. It may have been changed for the better later, but I haven't stepped foot in Bozja since & much rather be in Eureka Anemos & those maps.

Also, People who don't have time/ are lazy should be allowed to run the old content for tomestones for it as well- it's just the rewards should feel rewarding when doing new content & not force you into running old content.

That being said, I do appreciate the HW style of getting the other relics.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

It's chill and not horrendously grindy. I can do whatever content and get the tomes instead of suffering the same things 30 times over. While I enjoyed the battle content in bozja I didn't like needing to do it hundreds of times for my weapons. That was misery. Instead I get a little giggle at the manderville quests and can get my tomes over a few days doing trial and normal raids.

[Semirhage]

Because this is unironically a step up from what normally constitutes relic grind. The worst "content" in the game: FATEs. Look, I get it, FATEs are great from a development perspective. They're easy to make. They have an established template. Sprinkling them around the map on a loose timer is rote by now. And you know what, they're fun to run into the first ~5 times you see them.

PLEASE stop making me farm them. Every single piece of "content" that's tied to them takes the whisper of enjoyment they can provide and wrings them so dry they could spontaneously combust. I'll do 5 FATEs. Don't make me do 50 of them. Don't make me do 100 of them. Dear god, don't make me do 150 of them. Make it stop. Any "content" that involves grinding yet another five hundred FATEs can eat it. Eureka? FATE grinding (with a little extra if you stick it out). Bozja? FATE grinding (with a little extra if you stick it out). Tomes may be uninspired, I'll grant you that. But it's not. FATE. Farming.

[kangaroospa]

Do I hate the new relic step? No. Do i think it could have been better? Absolutely. As much as I would have loved a new zone to go into and farm out the relic. They clearly listened to feedback about last grind. No one who values their time wants to run alliance raids 15 times to get to a different step. I would have loved to explore a Eureka/Bozja like zone to get my next weapon but honestly I've been having fun with the new Deep Dungeon. I would have liked farming the relic in there but since the later floors require a fixed group I understand them not doing the grind in there for the solo players.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Yeah, they should have tied relics to savage content. Turn in savage books for relic progress. That would be a meaningful grind.



Especially since gear this tier is ugly as sin so no one's farming savage for looks. Let me turn in my ugly ass savage gear for relic progress, thanks SE.

[TaleraRistain]

They already said this is modeled after the ARR and HW relics...2nd steps in both of them were easy. But their notoriety on getting them isn't for the 2nd step, it's for the steps AFTER this one. Again, 3rd step for ARR relic is the notorious Atma grind, and the 3rd step for HW is the Unidentified Item grind, both which were real annoying to do back then. Expect a similar annoying grind for your troubles, assuming they don't skip that and just jump straight into the horrors of the materia or the Umbrite/Crystal Sand grinds.

And the books. Sweet Hydaelyn, the books.

That's one thing that puts me in "wait and see" mode for this next step.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

And the books. Sweet Hydaelyn, the books.

That's one thing that puts me in "wait and see" mode for this next step.

Books as they are now are nerfed. And some fate spawn rates have been adjusted. No one who didn't do the relic back then will ever understand just how bad it was.



I remember some people farmed for atmas in some zones for months before they dropped....