I have a question for the "community".

[Raven2014]

In the past there was stuff to do and the ppl that enjoyed actually playing the game were playing the game while the ppl that wanted stuff without playing the game sat on here complaining. So SE changed things to appease the ppl that didn't want to play the game and now the ppl that were playing the game in the past are on here complaining over the lack of engaging content.

And I think this is what keep up that vicious cycle of negative feedback.

- Got you what you want? Don't say anything.
- The people who don't share the same taste drum it up, making it looks like nobody want what you want.
- You stop getting what you want, now you become the next inline who does the drumming.

Honestly, I do enjoy the game enough that I stick around. However, if I am unhappy with a feature, I am very vocal about it, because being quiet does nothing. I am also quick to point out that when something does come up and a lot of people hate it, it is often because the player base asked for it, for better or worse depending on one's point of view

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That being said, my grievances toward the game pale in comparison to how I feel some of the community handles negative feedback. It usually starts when a few people are trying to quiet the "dissenters" by telling them to shut up and be grateful, but that does nothing but get them more riled up, and then people are like "SEE? THEY REALLY ARE ANGRY FOR NO REASON!"

Regardless of whether I agree with your assessment or not it's not the point of this thread. In case it's not already abundant clear:

- This is not a thread about complainers. I'm not telling complainers to stop complaining here, god know I did that enough in other thread already. While it's unavoidable to bring up complainers as a reference and comparison on the topic, I'm actually not addressing them, at all.

- The group I'm addressing here are the people who actually have, or had something they like.


If you have something you like and enjoy, then consider spend some effort sending some positive note. Let them know you enjoy it, that you want to see more of it. That doesn't mean you can't give feedback to improve. Feedback is not something that is exclusively belong to complainers, you can be positive and critical at the same time, in fact that's just human management 101.

If you like something, don't just take it for granted and assume the dev will read your mind and continue delivering it. Well, you can, but if we believe we entitle to that, we can't act surprise or angry when one day such content just stop being delivered. After all, if you're the dev and the only voice or feedback you hear about a type content is almost exclusively people trash talking it, you probably will want to stop making that type of content too.

It's almost like different players will have different opinions on what makes good Relic content or something..

Sign, it's almost feel like a lot of people are just skimping the OP without the detail.

- Yes, people can enjoy the content.
- yes, people can complain about the content.

That is not the point here. The point here is one side spend a lot of effort in making their voice heard while the others stay in almost silence. The point here is because of that ...

If they stopped trying to bend down to players who feel entitled to every reward but refuse to put the time or effort into it, the PvE content of the game would be way more interesting.

ever wonder why? This like 2 guys liking the same girl, but:

- Guy A: actually spend the effort of courting the girl
- Guy B: would do nothing except telling himself "one day she'll realize how much I love her and notice me".

Which guy, A or B, that you think will more likely have a wedding at the end? And I'm definitely getting some "Guy B" vibe from some of the replies here.

[RitsukoSonoda]

And I think this is what keep up that vicious cycle of negative feedback.

- Got you what you want? Don't say anything.
- The people who don't share the same taste drum it up, making it looks like nobody want what you want.
- You stop getting what you want, now you become the next inline who does the drumming.

Yup, it's a vicious cycle.

However if you're looking for tinfoil hat theories.

This could be the latest in the long history of changes over time that seem geared towards poaching players from other non MMO or RPG player bases.

Or

This could be the next step in Yoshi-P wanting to distance this title from the term JRPG.

There... Take your pick ;3