Change/Remove Lalafell "Lifter"...

[Pyshiro]

But the kid jokes are because of what lalafells are presented as by not just the game but the players themselves, not that im trying to justify poor jokes. Let's say that instead of a chair with long legs you instead got a lalafell sized cute bathtub, people would 'joke' asking if you enjoy your paddling-pool. If you had a lalafell sized kitchen, they'd 'joke' if you made anything in your easy-bake.
The bath is just a bath. The kitchen is just a kitchen. The chair is just a chair.

I get you with people saying things you don't like and over time it can grind you down... but the chair aint it.

Your grievance should be with select people, I've got friends that play lala and I don't think of them as kids but then I see randoms in cities acting like kids, and because I don't interact with these people in any sort of depth, my only impression is 'weird kiddy roleplayers' which just doesn't resonate with me.
I imagine that other players end up seeing and feeling the same way which leads to why people treat lala's like kids. However it doesn't justify targeting every lala for a free punt, but that's fuzzy because some stuff is acceptable and easy to shrug off and some isn't.

I would still love anything race related to aura as a housing item even if it was pure memes, there's plenty of things we get called too which I won't repeat here but you can't let the minority govern your experience. Just move on or report if they don't stop after you've already asked (politely).

Also. What name change does it need, it says lalafell lifter... it doesn't say lalafell high chair or lalafell booster seat.

You know what? I actually do like a lot of your points and it certainly helps put things into perspective. You also gave it a fair discussion without coming in swinging like most people so I really respect that.

I'm on the half and half point that I still don't like the chair in general and what it looks like/still wish it looked more dignified. I'd really rather it have been named in general "heightened chair" or something more fanciful if it was going to be a general item for all instead of what we expected it to be. This is also me and other lalafell players in general still wishing for dwarven furniture but... -shrugs-

But your point of potential furniture later down the line and what people would say then did make me think on it. I guess it all comes down to how they incorporate it in a respectful manner.

I'd love to see other racial furniture that made sense to each particular party. Whether that be enormous roegadyn/hrothgar sized or something more aspected to a clan's culture such as a viera's homeland or the like.

[LostUser]

You know what? I actually do like a lot of your points and it certainly helps put things into perspective. You also gave it a fair discussion without coming in swinging like most people so I really respect that.

I'm on the half and half point that I still don't like the chair in general and what it looks like/still wish it looked more dignified. I'd really rather it have been named in general "heightened chair" or something more fanciful if it was going to be a general item for all instead of what we expected it to be. This is also me and other lalafell players in general still wishing for dwarven furniture but... -shrugs-

But your point of potential furniture later down the line and what people would say then did make me think on it. I guess it all comes down to how they incorporate it in a respectful manner.

I'd love to see other racial furniture that made sense to each particular party. Whether that be enormous roegadyn/hrothgar sized or something more aspected to a clan's culture such as a viera's homeland or the like.

Obviously not the other poster, but I'm so glad that you've truly listened to them and that their extremely well-articulated comment helped to give you a broader perspective on this situation.

Can we delete the thread now..? Seriously, I'm not even joking.

People are kicking off about hate against lalafell players but I promise you that this thread is doing so much more damage to you guys than any other thing possibly could have without all of this dramatisation of the chair. People vibe so hard with drama because it tickles a little part of their brain and they'll just keep coming back for more tickles... and usually they're exactly the kind of person who's going to say things you don't like just to stir it up and stop the drama from dying down.

Start a new thread, in the right forum location, and ask for the chair to be dyeable like many other furniture items are; I'm going to back you on that 100%. I think it was a real poor move on SE's part for not making it properly dyeable so that people could make it fit in better and choose just how childlike or not this item appears to be, and I'd like to see them fix it. To do that, though, they don't need to remove the chair or change the name/flavour text - they just need to consider that most people won't want a white chair in the middle of their living space.

[Pyshiro]

Obviously not the other poster, but I'm so glad that you've truly listened to them and that their extremely well-articulated comment helped to give you a broader perspective on this situation.

Can we delete the thread now..? Seriously, I'm not even joking.

People are kicking off about hate against lalafell players but I promise you that this thread is doing so much more damage to you guys than any other thing possibly could have without all of this dramatisation of the chair. People vibe so hard with drama because it tickles a little part of their brain and they'll just keep coming back for more tickles... and usually they're exactly the kind of person who's going to say things you don't like just to stir it up and stop the drama from dying down.

Start a new thread, in the right forum location, and ask for the chair to be dyeable like many other furniture items are; I'm going to back you on that 100%. I think it was a real poor move on SE's part for not making it properly dyeable so that people could make it fit in better and choose just how childlike or not this item appears to be, and I'd like to see them fix it. To do that, though, they don't need to remove the chair or change the name/flavour text - they just need to consider that most people won't want a white chair in the middle of their living space.

Sorry I lost this post in the swarm of whiners still being memes.

As I've said before I would have deleted this thread first day if I could have if only to move it to the proper location for localization feedback (Is there a way to ask for mods to move threads?)-- but it's stuck here and people have already seen it so no point of me recreating for further drama. Nor do I want to be accused of spamming the forums with threads. The trolls are getting bored and will probably forget about it by next week.

I just made the mistake of adding the extreme "Removal" and even after fixing that mistake, the title is kinda stuck like that and people are still assuming I want the super extreme change. I don't. I posted an example of a wood dyed chair earlier that makes it look so much less child-like. It's the bright pink and white that's really not doing it any favors. Or really the shape itself (hence many thinking it was a toddler high chair).

I agree though and still stick to either fixing the default wood dye or, if impossible, at least a localization change of the naming.

[Dinxie]

I am going to expound a bit more on what I previously said. The "beauty" of games like FFXIV is that it allow many people to be in game what they cannot be in real life for various reasons. A young man who is struggling to be a bodybuilder might find comfort in being able to play as a Roe in FFXIV. A young woman who struggles with self esteem issues might find comfort in being able to look beautiful in FFXIV. The point is: no one knows what is going on with the person who is playing the character. If everyone would treat everyone like human beings and not just "pixels" on a screen... FFXIV and other MMOs would be alot better off in the long run. I am not saying it will be perfect and as no human is perfect; but, if everyone strove to treat everyone with respect and common decency: then things like this would have to take place. Yes, Lalafells were and are targeted by inscrutable individuals with disgusting motives. Yes, there are people who are "uncomfortable" with seeing Lalafells in certain venues. Don't see the Lalafell... Try to see the person on the other side of the screen.