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    CatStarwind's Avatar
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    Drufel Starwind
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by ChooChooTraaaaaaaaain View Post
    Show the part in the Terms of Service where it actually defines that multiple ownership on a single account will be met with enforcement or consequences. (No your little housing graph or chart that says "you can only own one house" is not part of the terms of service or a rule/law.)

    Guess what, you can't because there are no defined consequences. It's about as much of a violation as someone taking more than 1 piece of halloween candy from the bucket with a sign that says "Take only one". Too bad so sad!
    I mean, I can.
    Land Ownership - You do not have a character on the same World on the same service account that purchased and maintains a free company plot
    2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.
    But you already covered worming out of that:
    Quote Originally Posted by ChooChooTraaaaaaaaain View Post
    By the way. The Terms of Service is not evidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by ChooChooTraaaaaaaaain View Post
    Anyone can verbally declare ownership over 10 houses or hell ownership over Limsa but you still can't actually validate it.
    How convenient. All the players who have self reported here and on the discord are just lying. They're certainly working hard to keep that lie alive, between harassment campaigns and ensuring the exploit gets as little attention as possible. When people show you who they are, believe them the first time.


    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    Have fun chasing your tail on this. I blocked him after my third request to actually provide a citation as to the location and verbiage in the TOS went ignored.
    You do realize more than once you've directly quoted me showing the pertinent TOS verbiage.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChooChooTraaaaaaaaain View Post
    A handful of repeat posters come here when their anger swells up just to throw out buzzwords like ToS or RMT or Rules or 'Slumlord' and then make a Christmas wishlist of doomsday punishments to satiate their dark desire for revenge. Yet not a single shred of evidence is ever provided and it's all based on assumptions and a thirst for personal justice. "We all know they are RMT'ing and breaking ToS!!". No, you don't know and you still have not shown actual hard evidence.

    Disgraceful.

    A literal witchhunt. What was that about morals again? Only applies when its convenient of course.
    Are you well? It might be time for a break, especially if you're going as far as creating an alt account just to continue gas lighting.
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    ChooChooTraaaaaaaaain's Avatar
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    Bought-all The'houses
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CatStarwind View Post
    ...creating an alt account just to continue gas lighting.
    You posted this exact same response and misleading deflection elsewhere. So I will also post the same response to your shameless deflection to ensure other readers understand that you are posting the same baseless arguments on other posts in this forum.

    What you posted:


    The lines you quoted are from two separate documentations.
    >> The section you quoted for 2.1 Cheating and Botting is directly pulled from the Terms of Service.

    >> The line you quoted about Land Ownership is pulled from Additional Plots and Purchasing Guide. This is a completely different entity from the Terms of Service.

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    The argument you are pushing about Land Ownership does not reside in the Terms of Service, or even indirectly. Details below:
    • Land Ownership guidelines are not included in the Terms of Service.
    • Land Ownership that exceeds the amount of 1 FC and 1 House is not detailed, identified, or regarded to as a bug.
    • Land Ownership that exceeds the amount of 1 FC and 1 House is not detailed, identified, or regarded to an exploit.
    • Land Ownership that exceeds the amount of 1 FC and 1 House does not have a consequence with a violation in the same language or nature as section 2.1 Cheating and Botting or other related sections that have consequences tied to actions in the Terms of Service.
    • Owning more than one service account is not detailed, identified, or regarded to as an exploit or bug.
    • Circumvention of the suggested plot maximum per the Additional Plots and Purchasing Guide does not fall under the pretense of section 2.1 because it does not fit the criteria of being a bug or an exploit.

    You have failed to make a valid connection between bug/exploit and multiple house ownership.

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    Did you know that per the FFXIV Forum Guidelines you are violating one of the listed rules about "Posting a number of posts with the same content"?

    Again, enforcement begins with yourself.
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    The Spirit of the ToS does not wish to be part of your circus show argument. Please leave him alone.

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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatStarwind View Post
    I mean, I can.




    But you already covered worming out of that:




    How convenient. All the players who have self reported here and on the discord are just lying. They're certainly working hard to keep that lie alive, between harassment campaigns and ensuring the exploit gets as little attention as possible. When people show you who they are, believe them the first time.




    You do realize more than once you've directly quoted me showing the pertinent TOS verbiage.



    Are you well? It might be time for a break, especially if you're going as far as creating an alt account just to continue gas lighting.
    Funny how you will gladly talk about multiowners "harassing" you, just like you called me a stalker for responding to you a few weeks back, because apparently responding to you is stalking, yet you are the one harassing people because you think you are in the right, when multiple people have proven you wrong by even showing you that it's not in the ToS, and is barely a "guideline" which you can decide to follow or not follow.
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