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  1. #181
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    Yin_Yue_'s Avatar
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    Yin Yue
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    Jesus, why are lalafell players act like they are the only ones who being fun at?
    Have you guys ever seen the jokes and mocking other race get?
    Can't say I've ever seen examples of people being booted from Party Finder or shunned from RP venues on account of being a catboy or an Au Ra, so no, not really.
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  2. #182
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    PaalHenrik's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yin_Yue_ View Post
    Can't say I've ever seen examples of people being booted from Party Finder or shunned from RP venues on account of being a catboy or an Au Ra, so no, not really.
    If you see something once, it doesn't mean it happens *all the time*. Get a backbone.
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  3. #183
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    OziAuros's Avatar
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    Ava Zariah
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Lalafell are not meant to be taken seriously. Full stop. When you picked the tiny little actual-stomping-tantrum-emoting gremlin creature, you shouldn't expect everyone to take it seriously. You shouldn't be expecting anyone to take it seriously.
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  4. #184
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Even if it wasn't directed at Lalafells, a baby/toddler chair in the game seems pretty weird to me. (;´□`)/
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  5. #185
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    Ahristo Lunasea
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    I'm sorry but.. this feels so laughable in nature that I just almost can't believe it's an issue.. first off, from the outside perspective, Lalas only appeal to Lala players.. when you play an RPG, you take on a role you'd like to play, something you think is cool, or something that visually appeals to you.. that's why a lot of guys play female characters or straight-up anime beefcakes etc.

    I'm not sure what appeals to Lala players, because I personally don't resonate with the race at all.. I don't want to be tiny, I don't want to be cute, and I don't want to look like a child character with a moustache. There's no reason I'd ever play one except as a joke, because that's what they are to me. I just don't like them, and guess what? I don't have to. It's a game and I personally wouldn't have made them a playable race even though they're based on Tarutaru. I just don't see what appeals to anyone.

    So I can honestly say.. most people aren't going out of their way to exclude lalas from groups and things that I've seen in the ~10 years I've played this game.. but this chair isn't going to sway anyone's opinion of lalas either way, you either love them or hate the idea of them beyond a joke. They're wingless moogles, and if you chose to be one, a lot of people just won't ever understand why.. get over it. Also, it's a game. I get that it's your identity and you put a lot of time into your character, but it isn't you.. you're 4 feet taller than your char IRL and shouldn't need a jokingly named chair in a game to remind you to take a step back and realize what it is you're here crying about. This game's always had the greatest community, but I've never rolled my eyes harder than reading this divisive thread.

    If you hate being made fun of for playing a cherub, you can change it for the price of fantasia and move on.
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calcilis View Post
    ah yes, this will definitely proof only lalafellin suffer harassments over their chosen race.

    Look mate, im not gonna say harassments over lalafell is good cuz its definitely not, but you guys should stop assuming only lalafell get harassed for their chosen pixel race

    Ppl seriously losing sleep over some pixel chair
    I mean if you got any feel free to share. I got an archive... cause I have to to proof it apparently idk if you know any other race that needs to proof that they are being harassed vs Lala's. Idk any race that gets kicked out Venues even SFW or Parties unless its Lala's. Literally I can't name a race that gets treated as if they need to experience a genocide. Name another Race go right ahead, then screenshot that experience if you so please and I am all ears. Harassment of any kind is not acceptable. But to claim just cause it happens to us and we point it out? and you assume that we want to claim that it doesn't happen to others? is a bold statement. We just say it happens. There. Now it happens to you go right ahead and share. I am sure you have the same amount of evidence and experience have, I am sure of it... and I am sure when you report them all they do not continue to harass or stalk you either I am sure of it.
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    Last edited by CelestiCer; 03-08-2023 at 11:30 PM.

  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by OziAuros View Post
    Lalafell are not meant to be taken seriously. Full stop. When you picked the tiny little actual-stomping-tantrum-emoting gremlin creature, you shouldn't expect everyone to take it seriously. You shouldn't be expecting anyone to take it seriously.
    Yes a player playing any race or based on a certain appearance should not be taken seriously. I just view it as people in real-life who can't express their racism wanting to do that anonymously online. Under the excuse by some that RP-racism isn't' real Racism and Lala's or any Race is fake there for its okey to be an asshole. Even though its clearly not okey in the TOS to treat players poorly.

    Obviously its fine to treat players badly based on in-game appearances, glad we cleared that up...
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  8. #188
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    Sol_Seppy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    At-first glace I felt this was a micro-aggression. A lot of times people don\\\\'t realize they are part of such, or just adverse to knowing it is.

    Things like objectification, misgendering people, treating as 2nd-class cause of their gender/race/sex. Even saying simple things like "let\\\\'s have a powwow in the break room" which just rolls off some people\\\\'s tongues still to this day. Maybe some should look up what these things are before just rolling to some conclusion that it\\\\'s nothing.
    I think my main concern about all of this, is people like above acting as if they are suffering from systemic oppression, in a videogame, where you can easily change your race.

    Unless you represent irl as the race you are ingame, I\\'d recommend not using terms like "microaggressions", "racism" and those of the same ilk, because the phrasing some of your concerns are coming off pretty badly, ngl.
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  9. #189
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    Not taking someone seriously because they have chosen to play a character that looks like a child and then behave like a child is not racism. If someone IRL is acting ridiculous and then demands to be treated like everyone else, that is the correct comparison to draw. Don't liken this to racial injustice.
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  10. #190
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    Yes a player playing any race or based on a certain appearance should not be taken seriously. I just view it as people in real-life who can't express their racism wanting to do that anonymously online. Under the excuse by some that RP-racism isn't' real Racism and Lala's or any Race is fake there for its okey to be an asshole.
    Final Fantasy XIV is not real life, and "lalafell" is not a real race. Equating ANY actions toward a lalafell to racism is, to any reasonable person, completely unhinged and absurd. This is a video game. You are not your character. RP is not reality.

    That being said, it's not ok for anyone to be an asshole toward anyone else. If people are kicking someone from PF or telling them to kill themselves in real life, that's not racism, that's video game griefing, and should be treated as such and reported. REAL racism, would be kicking someone from a PF or telling them to kill themselves because a person found out the player of a lalafell, or any other in-game race, was black/brown/asian/etc. That is racism. Making a baby chair for lalafell's, is not.
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