"Just wait until *insert next patch*!"

[Ath192]

This is the only other post I can find from you in this thread, if there is a suggestion in here you are going to have to spell it out to me because I dont see it.

The suggestion in this post is implicit, don't copy and paste ad infinitum. And several people supporting they feel the devs are behaving this way. How can you not get it?

Since its about the framework of the game design in general that's as specific as it's going to get, if you want suggestions on specific things players have requested look around.

[Rolder50]

Can we start with Variant and Criteron having a point to do them? Or having a better reward gauge to do them?

Having relic weapon items be gotten out of Variant dungeons would have been a good idea. But alas we get tomestome grind again.

[EliaStormblade]

Having relic weapon items be gotten out of Variant dungeons would have been a good idea. But alas we get tomestome grind again.

Can see it being tied into the next Variant in 6.45 (I assume?) Would be perfect timing, really.

Also, I really don't mind if they add a carrot on a stick to keep running variants. Anything, so long as it or criterion don't offer savage-level gear. Not because I'm a savage raider who wants exclusivity, but because I don't really like the road of having people hard-farm criterions until their eyes bleed to get bis gear.

[Troxbark]

Before anyone quits, be sure to buy my pizza in midgardsormr for 50m.

Best pizza in ff14.

[Denji]

normally i roll my eyes at threads like these but this patch was pretty... devoid of like. everything.

[HeyMcFly]

So 6.35 is here and we got:
- A relic 'grind' that is literally identical to the last step.
- Beast tri- I mean tribal qu- I mean daily chores.
- A copy pasted PotD that despite having some new mechanics is the exact same thing we've had for years.

When I said that 6.25 was a bad patch, people told me to wait until 6.3. When 6.3 was a bad patch, people told me to just wait until 6.35. Well, 6.35 is here.

So when is it acceptable to say that we've been getting multiple bad patches in a row?

Never? Well alright then, guess I'll just keep waiting until *insert next patch here* then.

Exactly!
It's always "you'll see the updates you want next patch, just wait."

Unless it's in the notes or someone datamined it for that guarantee- people should stop with the empty words & false hopes lol
Many of us have learned our lesson from before

It's less & less everytime.

With the graphic update people say "just wait for graphic update that means character creation update"
no, it does not unless stated by the xiv team. Stop the wishful thinking. When the devs are vague, be suspicious & expect next to nothing
When they tell you to not get overhyped, don't. It's because they know it's not good.
Temper expectations, this is a square enix game.

[Velnora]

They have been running the same patch cycle for years. It's rather amusing seeing people that were defending the mundane cycle, now complain about it.

[Shinkuno]

It doesn't help that Yoshi-P himself is encouraging people to play other games. I was actually shocked, and it's usually a bad sign when a producer of a game is encouraging you to play other games. In most cases developers will try to keep you occupied with their game so they can get the revenue from it, but this? It's gonna bite back really hard.

It was also a pretty PR statement, iirc in reponse to lack of content?!

if he truely believed that, housing timer wouldnt exist, rewards wouldnt be frontloaded into daily roulettes to "punish" you for missing a day etc

"Just unsub" isnt a excuse for lack of content when you have game design that doesnt want you to unsub

I remember one time while working, I overheard my boss tell this one girl who was a compulsive complainer that he didn't want her in his office unless she had suggestions on how to improve whatever it was she was crying about. He also proceeded to tell her that if she was unhappy, she knows exactly where the door is.

You see, when you come here and mention the new content while simultaneously reaching for any reason you can find to rip on it, you're not making any suggestions. You're also not making yourself sound reasonable and open for conversation. All you are doing it whining. And in this echo chamber, you're doing it to farm likes and gather together a mob with the same mindset as you. In these cases, you can best believe I am going to echo exactly what my boss said to that girl, and tell you to just unsub. You contribute exactly zero of anything of benefit to the forum, and to the game. If you actively choose to not be part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

You bring in an air of negativity that implies it really doesn't matter what the dev team does. You will find something to complain about. If the hairstyle is short, it's another short hairstyle. If it's long, it clips or is another feminine hairdo. If the relic steps are extensive and uses FATEs, "OMG FATES! I don't even do those!" If it just uses tomestones, then it isn't grindy enough. If you are someone who simply cannot be pleased, then unsub. You are actively paying your own money to a game you do not support, and paying a dev team you do not like. You're also wasting your own time.

If you have suggestions on how to improve your experience in FFXIV then make them. However, do it without also adding, "Pfft, like they ever listen anyway." If this is how you feel. Unsub. You lot by the very definition of it, are a mob. Just sad in every way conceivable.

You know where the "just leave" heads you? Wildstar. People had criticism and the fanboys went "go play wow"

wheres wildstars now? dead, shutdown

This is pretty indicative of what future expansions are going to be like. Enjoy your 1 hour of content every 4.5 months! Please understand!

And the people that defend it are the people that pay monthly sub to afk in limsa. I be honest, if i was square i'd do the same, why make content when you have hordes of people paying to afk

[True-to-Caesar]

Endwalker is my first expansion (I started during 5.55).

I have to say, while I do enjoy the story, I often found until now that there’s not much to do (unless you do savage/ult) and little by little the game becomes a lobby game.

Unlike it other MMOs like Fail Wars 2 or WoW, you don’t even get a new map to explore with supposedly big patches. Which would not only add more fresh new things to see, but have people participate in FATEs (real dead content), having world bosses to keep maps alive…

Been playing much less lately and didn’t even login once yesterday on patch day. I was just more inclined to play other games for fun.

[kevin_satron]

This expansion is probably the laziest they ever done compare to previous expansion.