Pickings Are Slim, But This Really Isn't Okay, Is It?

[Kaiproberts]

Random thought I just had:

If the GMs won't take action for whatever reason, then I wonder if submitting it as a bug report would at least get those furnishings removed. Members of the FC that own the plot below should not be able to place the items on the plot above that they do not own.

Same with the items blocking the pathway. The anchor points for the furnishings appear to be placed outside of the plot's boundaries. Players should not be able to place items outside of their plots.

SE already knows about that issue and they addressed it before. There's a 3rd party program that allows 3d placement that people use to push things outside of their house boundaries. They used to be able to place outdoor items a lot further away but SE nerfed it. I think it's really funny that if you reach out to support with feedback they tell you to post on the forums but it's clear as day they don't care about the forums or housing at all.

[Jojoya]

SE already knows about that issue and they addressed it before. There's a 3rd party program that allows 3d placement that people use to push things outside of their house boundaries. They used to be able to place outdoor items a lot further away but SE nerfed it. I think it's really funny that if you reach out to support with feedback they tell you to post on the forums but it's clear as day they don't care about the forums or housing at all.

I understand there's a third party program that some players use.

The point is to get SE to address the problem. If reported, they can't simply brush it off as "working as intended" because that would be an endorsement of third party programs contradicting their stated position.

There would need to be a constructive response to the bug report. With luck, it would go through internal channels back to the GMs with instructions to stop ignoring housing related reports and address them appropriately. In this case, it's a clear issue of nuisance behavior at the very least.

If it continues to get ignored, we'll start seeing more and more of this sort of thing getting done because SE will have demonstrated there are no consequences for doing it regardless of the ToS. While most players are mature enough to avoid temptation, even if using the third party program, not all are.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Already saw the big Thavnairian boat being placed partially in an empty plot’s yard as I was wandering the wards this morning. Hoping it was accidental and not intentional, and that this isn’t going to be a new “trend.” Guess we’ll see if the new owner of that plot has any luck getting it moved.

[Final-Fantasy]

Just a little update, they did chage their placard to be a discord user. I heavily advise people to not message and don't feed the troll.
The blockade is still there and I'm still reporting. The support has been great but we're all still being ignored.
I just wish I could message a GM personally and have them see the place for themselves.

Any response from in-game support about this issue?

Also, does anyone know how the neighbor was able to place furnishings outside of their yard and onto another players property, is this an issue with the plot location (Bug), or a 3rdparty tool being used?

[Kyssa]

I understand there's a third party program that some players use.

The point is to get SE to address the problem. If reported, they can't simply brush it off as "working as intended" because that would be an endorsement of third party programs contradicting their stated position.

There would need to be a constructive response to the bug report. With luck, it would go through internal channels back to the GMs with instructions to stop ignoring housing related reports and address them appropriately. In this case, it's a clear issue of nuisance behavior at the very least.

If it continues to get ignored, we'll start seeing more and more of this sort of thing getting done because SE will have demonstrated there are no consequences for doing it regardless of the ToS. While most players are mature enough to avoid temptation, even if using the third party program, not all are.

I just submitted this (some identifying info left out of this forum post per forum rules). We'll see how far it gets us. I don't have much faith.

Housing Item Placement Bug or Allowed Feature? Aether-Sargatanas-
■Date & Time: 2-20-23 to Now
■Frequency: Every day
■World name: Sargatanas
■FC name: ------
■FC Leader/Members: --------
■Party or solo: Free Company
■In-game time: All day, every day since at least February 20 to current time and date
■Area and coordinates: Stairs ---- - Top of stairs ------ Plot obstruction ----- through -------
■Housing: Aether-Sargatanas- Mist-
■ Platform: Windows

■Steps:
1. This issue has been reported via Harassment by numerous players, including the owner of Plot ---- which is being blocked/trapped by items upon teleporting to his home, multiple times.
2. As the numerous blockades continue to stand, despite all of the reports on the issue, perhaps there is some bug that needs looking into that allows placement of items into walkways and up into airspace and plots not owned by the placer of said items.
3. If this is not allowed, be it by the abuse of a bug, or the use of a 3rd party tool, perhaps we can get this addressed as it is negatively affecting the community and will only spread in use the longer it goes over-looked.

Already saw the big Thavnairian boat being placed partially in an empty plot’s yard as I was wandering the wards this morning. Hoping it was accidental and not intentional, and that this isn’t going to be a new “trend.” Guess we’ll see if the new owner of that plot has any luck getting it moved.

Yeah, that's one I see a lot of. Fingers crossed it doesn't stay and the new owner can enjoy their plot.

[Kyssa]

Any response from in-game support about this issue?

Also, does anyone know how the neighbor was able to place furnishings outside of their yard and onto another players property, is this an issue with the plot location (Bug), or a 3rdparty tool being used?

It's a 3rd party tool. A bug that allowed someone to place 20 yard items outside of their own plot would be, I'd think, game breaking enough for it to be addressed- but we'll see how the bug report goes!

[LuciDala]

Only automated responses all the time. Nothing is done yet, the blockade is still there.

Also it was definitely a 3rd party tool. In no way can the HoH towers, bath houses, and namazu be placed that high

[Titor]

Only automated responses all the time. Nothing is done yet, the blockade is still there.

Also it was definitely a 3rd party tool. In no way can the HoH towers, bath houses, and namazu be placed that high

While the issue in question is definitely not ok and probably was done with a TPT, it is possible to place some furnishings on ledges or other features without the use of TPT. For instance, the goblet plot 13/43, you can place items from storage onto the pillars on the corners of the yard. For some reason, the game lets you. So you can sometimes place items high legit, but I don't think this instance was.

[Dogempire]

Any response from in-game support about this issue?

Also, does anyone know how the neighbor was able to place furnishings outside of their yard and onto another players property, is this an issue with the plot location (Bug), or a 3rdparty tool being used?

It's likely a 3rd party tool, you *can* place furniture like that legitimately by using a housing glitch that involves placing furniture out of storage, but the furniture can only go out so far with legitimate placement, the picture OP has makes it look like it's on the exact center of the border, which is pretty much impossible since you can only get *very* close to the center of the border by changing the fence type to allow for slightly more fence placement.

I'm leaning more towards 3rd party tool though, because the vast majority of players don't really know much about furniture glitches and how you can get weird interactions with terrain when there's a 3rd party tool that lets you choose where you want the furniture and how high you want it with no knowledge required.

[Titor]

It's likely a 3rd party tool, you *can* place furniture like that legitimately by using a housing glitch that involves placing furniture out of storage, but the furniture can only go out so far with legitimate placement, the picture OP has makes it look like it's on the exact center of the border, which is pretty much impossible since you can only get *very* close to the center of the border by changing the fence type to allow for slightly more fence placement.

I'm leaning more towards 3rd party tool though, because the vast majority of players don't really know much about furniture glitches and how you can get weird interactions with terrain when there's a 3rd party tool that lets you choose where you want the furniture and how high you want it with no knowledge required.

Also the sheer volume of items makes it quite obvious. I could buy someone placing it without tpt maybe once, maybe even twice, but its really time consuming and hard to get right, much less line up that well for that many items.