Arenvald's character arc in EW's Healer role questline was really lame. 。゜(+`Д´)゜。
Let my boy use magic or a gun! The whole stuck in a wheelchair and feeling useless troupe makes no sense in a world where people can battle with magic and magitek.
They let Gosetsu become a healer after retiring as a samurai due to old age, why not let Arenvald DPS or Healer?
They couldn't even be bothered to animate his wheelchair; he could only move via scene transition.
I get it's suppose to be a story of Arenvald learning self efficacy off the battlefield and to act as a foil to Fordola but it was really bland and paint-by-numbers.
Haurchefant was boring and forgettable, and Estinien's association with the Scions has caused him to become boring as well.
Alisaie's obvious attraction to the Warrior of Light is extremely creepy.
Alphinaud and Thancred should've died in Ultima Thule.
Venat should've been held responsible for her crimes.
The ancients deserved a better outcome.
Minifilia sucked as a character.
Y'sthola needs to stfu.
Also, wtf happened to that business with Y'shtola using up her life so she could see? Seems to have just vanished into the aether at this point. Really needs to be touched on again. We know they'll never kill her off, but the least they could do is have the constant drain of her spiritual aether render her unfit for battle or something so we're not subjected to her as often.
Last edited by Absimiliard; 03-07-2023 at 12:02 AM.
Nobody who hates on the Scions actually hates them. They are just starved for a Character Death, especially with a Main Cast Member.
.....and Yshtola's many Fakeouts.
Calling Graha or even Alisaie creepy makes no sense, I wonder if people are just not used to, or never have been cared about by a friend or others.
Estinien is hated for the same Reason Kratos is on the New God of War games.....he has a personality now that hes grown older and wiser, and he is no longer Edgy.
Which I think is a good thing, because Rawr Edgy boy gets old very quick.
Him staying an edgy guy wouldnt have kept him interesting
People that organize hunt trains need to quit acting so entitled. No one has a "right" to any hunt. They aren't something a player or group of players can own.
You're really gonna do the SE defense force thing in a hot take thread? Aight. Here you go.Nobody who hates on the Scions actually hates them. They are just starved for a Character Death, especially with a Main Cast Member.
.....and Yshtola's many Fakeouts.
Calling Graha or even Alisaie creepy makes no sense, I wonder if people are just not used to, or never have been cared about by a friend or others.
Estinien is hated for the same Reason Kratos is on the New God of War games.....he has a personality now that hes grown older and wiser, and he is no longer Edgy.
Which I think is a good thing, because Rawr Edgy boy gets old very quick.
Him staying an edgy guy wouldnt have kept him interesting
Joke's on you. I really do hate the Scions. Especially Alphinaud and Tataru.
If you think an underage girl being so openly interested in a character that is very clearly an adult (and not even a young adult, considering how much time has passed) isn't creepy, I don't know what to tell you.
People like the new Kratos. What Estinien has going on now is not personality. It's the equivalent of being domesticated. The character just exists in the background, its entire personality replaced with "hurr hurr greater good." Estinien has zero depth. Kratos, on the other hand, transitioned from having little depth to having an incredible amount of it. The two characters aren't remotely similar in any way.
No I'm pretty sure I hate them. Character death wouldn't increase my appreciation of any of them, but at least they would be gone.
My hot take is that the Scions are the worst main cast out of any Final Fantasy I've played (which is all of them since IV).
Shadowbringers almost salvaged them by giving them a good amount of focus and individual character arcs, then EW regressed them all to a boring, amorphous mass of single character traits. Where all they do is preach the themes of the story and smile blankly at everything the WoL do.
Krile is the worst of them, she has so little character being used as a sock puppet by Hydaelyn doesn't even faze her. She creeps me out.
EDIT: (By the way the direction of Kratos is the one thing I like the most about new God of War, so it's not all about edge. Like Absimiliard said he's a really compelling character now, which is definitely not something I could say of any of the Scions)
Last edited by Kazhar; 03-07-2023 at 12:39 AM.
My MSQ hot take is that it's pretty good.
Like, it's not incredible, Hugo award winning, like a lot of twitter would have you think, but it's not a plot hole ridden, inconsistent narrative like the forums love to discuss.
It's just "pretty good" and "kinda fun".
If you want more, or expect more, you're playing the wrong game.
I don't "hate" the Scions but they've overstayed their welcome for the story. ¯\_( ◉ 3 ◉ )_/¯
Y'shtola in particular due to the lack of consequences to her actions and all the fake outs.
Is it wrong that when we started the 6.1 storyline, I thought/hoped she was going to be tempted into join Golbez? To me, they were characterizing her as someone who was starved for knowledge (use finding her sleeping in a pile of books in Old Sharlayan, her essentially pressing the charge into the void, and her having to resist the urge to go crazy in the restricted section in the library) and being willing to do anything to pursuit it and her goals (again, her pressing the charge into the void, even against Vtra's obvious unease to do so, plus humiliating herself with that froth and foam spell). It would have made her this game's version of Kain from IV, which would have been interesting to see how Estinien, this games literal Kain-clone, would reacted and interacted with her.
。+゜(*´>w<`*)。+゜
Zero is quiet, stoic and aloof
Y'shtola is quiet, stoic and aloof
Estinien is quiet, stoic and aloof
Golbez is quiet, stoic and aloof
Vrtra is ...less quiet, stoic and aloof but still is
Why exactly should I care about anything when apparently not even the main npcs seem to care much either? If I had to describe how I feel about the current MSQ, it'd be the 'pretends to be shocked' memes
PS: I'm far more invested in the alliance raid story
Last edited by Allegor; 03-07-2023 at 02:13 AM.
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