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  1. #61
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    kevin_satron's Avatar
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    Kevin Satron
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    Typhon
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    White Mage Lv 100
    they have to let us spam ivalice, nier, and the twelve AR.
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  2. #62
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I mean, I don't want it to take all of 5 minutes again, but I don't want to run old raids 50 times again either. A good grind strikes a balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  3. #63
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    GTK0HLK's Avatar
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    Selene Halflight
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I'm one of the few that don't mind a grind, long as it's achievable..,
    [Or no unnecessary roadblocks, that requires you to play with a system, before you're locked out, and can't collect and progress before hand..,]

    Here's hoping there is a variable amount of options..,

    [A Grind that benefits those who are willing to go the Effort way,
    when there is a ExpZone-one that works seamlessly with its progression-,
    and a not-stressful Slow Grind/Passive Collection that isn't roadblocked, for those who don't want to have too much grind.]
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  4. #64
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    Mansion Viscera
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    Louisoix
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    Sage Lv 100
    IMO, the devs have made it harder on them with all the content cuts since Stormblood. HW had multiple ways of grinding because there were various means of obtaining the required items (on top of my head, dungeon farm, raid farm, tome farm, crafting scrips, beast tribes currency, FATEs). But now that we don't have several dungeons a patch for instance, they can't ask people to farm the same 3 dungeons when for HW people had 10 more dungeons to choose from.
    I'm happy we gave up the dedicated instances for the relic, while I enjoyed Eureka at the time, Bozja was not a great improvement outside of CLL, DR and Dalriada (which had their problems too).

    I just hope the new relic naturally feeds other game systems, with a lot of diversity to choose from (say, once week it's Stormblood's content that gives a bonus in grind, once week is another expansion). In that sense the Anima relic was the best designed for me. It could just benefit from ShB where a few steps were done once only, making it easier for other jobs.

    Stats wise, I just don't want Eureka's random stats. I don't care that much about the weapon being BiS or not, I've only ever used them for cosmetics / achievements, and it ultimately doesn't mean much given how late we get it anyway. If they wanted to introduce a relic that is actively competitive to Savage weapons, they would need to release it early and balance the grind to Savage completion, which is almost impossible given how Savage can be zerged by pros over one reset, or casually completed over months.
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    Last edited by Mansion; 03-07-2023 at 07:18 AM.

  5. #65
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    I hope criterion, variant or the new deep dungeon will be some of the ways we can advance the relic quest. I'm also open to farming old content for a change.

    They should also add gear rewards to criterion and a unique mount reward to criterion savage, similar to what was available in Eureka/Bozja and their savage raids.
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  6. #66
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I hope the deep dungeon has nothing to do with it.

    I don't want stuck doing hoh to unlock it potentially, just for a weapon that's not better than what I have by much.
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  7. #67
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    Selene Halflight
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    I hope the deep dungeon has nothing to do with it.

    I don't want stuck doing hoh to unlock it potentially, just for a weapon that's not better than what I have by much.
    Unless Godbrand stole/bought/won Relics from Allag and the DeepDungeons when creating his Family's Arms/Armaments.., we should be fine.
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  8. #68
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    Sirk Raven
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 93
    With this being my first relic weapons since I'm newer 90 I just hope it's fun not a mindless grind fest (like AP in WoW during BFA expansion) but something I can enjoy doing. I have no prior experience on relic weapons to draw on so just excited to do my first upgrade
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  9. #69
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    Montana Wildhack
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    The last relic grind was horrible and I assume this one will be as well. For some reason SE thinks the worse it is, the better you feel about completing it. Not me, I hated every minuye of it. It was not fun, it never will be. I am skipping it this round. No thanks. Games are supposed to be fun, not tedious as FFXIV is all about.
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  10. #70
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    Voidsent Catte
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 53
    This is just further proof that none of you care about the quality of the content or what the majority of the playerbase wants. You want an awful grind that prevents most players from bothering. You want to be the only ones with your shiny so-called hard earned relic weapons that you will lord over the casual playerbase. You're nothing more than toxic elitists looking to gatekeep content for your own satisfaction. I am grateful that Yoshi P and Square Enix do not listen to your horrendous suggestions.
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