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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    WHM butchering
    I was referring to SB WHM, which happened alongside the 1st attempt to remove Energy Drain.

    We'll have to agree to disagree about the proposed changes to WHM.

    What would you do with SCH and AST?
    I'm just gonna copy over some ideas I had for SCH from another thread. Although it's somewhat more controversial than my WHM suggestions.

    Just bear with me as it's far from being complete given that SCH has a vast array of gameplay elements to it, from the pet, to Aetherflow, to Energy Drain, etc. that I needed to consider and for all of my theorycrafting, I am still not 100% on some of the suggestions myself as of yet nor do I have ideas for some skills. The overall Goal was to reduce the need for our oGCD heals by both expending the DPS toolkit to provide some level of utility and to make the GCD healing toolkit work in a way that would benefit DPS but not handicap the healing side of things. There are some buffs to the oGCD healing side of things but there is also some skills that I want to remove.

    GCD healing:
    Addlo could be given a damage reflection element to it.
    Succor could be used for both healing and to refresh/extend SCH's DoTs.

    Physick I am at a loss. Upgrading it to Addlo at level 30 is an obvious solution but then there's also the option of just making every healer's Cure 1 equivalent skill have an Esuna effect added to them. You remove 1 skill either way so they both work.

    DPS:
    Broil and Ruin 2 now offer 5 Fairy Gauge.
    Miasma returns and stacks with Bio with both having a 50% proc to grant 5 gauge per tic.
    Shadowflare returns as an oGCD DoT that lasts 15s on a 60s CD but instead of a Slow effect, it grants the Protraction effect to any ally that enters the Dome for 10s. This way, it can remain useful for all content since most bosses are immune to the Slow effect and it would normally be centered on the Tank since that's where the enemies generally are so that they can still receive the benefits of Protraction.
    Bane is added as a 15s DoT on a 60s CD that doesn't build Fairy Gauge but turns the ability into Fester. Using Fester causes Bane's DoT to expire but reduces the damage the Target does by 5% for the remaining duration of Bane's DoT timer upon use.

    Aetherflow: I am honestly completely stumped here.
    Indom is in contention with Fey Blessing and Succor now so would we really need it? Either Indom or Blessing would need to go but I'm more invested in keeping Blessing than Indom since otherwise it becomes harder to balance the Fairy Gauge unless I add a new Fairy Ability, which defeats the purpose of reducing the over abundance of oGCD healing tools.
    The can of worms that is Energy Drain is also something that I can't really think of what to do with. SCH should have plenty of DPS tools now that it wouldn't really need it and if we're reducing oGCD healing tools, we might need to use more Aetherflow abilities more often.

    Fairies:
    Eos
    Whispering Dawn now lasts for 15s with a cure potency of 120. 60s CD remains unchanged.
    Fey Blessing CD reduced to 30s
    Fey Illumination now provides a 15% Healing buff with 8% mitigation on a 60s CD
    Selene
    Whispering Dawn now lasts for 24s with a cure potency of 75. 60s CD remains unchanged.
    Fey Blessing CD reduced to 30s. Provides a 380 potency Shield instead of a heal.
    Fey Covenant provides a 15% mitigation effect with a 8% Healing Buff on a 60s CD.

    Fairy Gauge:
    Starts off at 100 upon entering an instance.
    Whispering Dawn, Fey Blessing and Fey Covenant/Illumination cost 25 gauge.
    Aetherpact costs 50 gauge and summons your unused fairy to the target to provide healing for 15s. This way you can use your other fairy skills without needing to worry about the tether turning off.
    Seraph costs 50 gauge but Angel's Whisper, Consolation and Seraph Illumination can be cast without cost.

    Misc:
    Dissipation no longer dispels your fairy nor grants Aetherflow but instead allows the use of 1 fairy ability with no cost.
    Alternatively, Dissipation and Recitation could be reworked to allow 1 free Aetherflow or Fairy ability usage with 2 charges, Recitation just allowing the skill to Crit over Dissipation.
    Expendant is also something I hesitate to touch since it's still useful, even after the nerf but with the buff to Covenant/Illumination, do we need it?

    Like I said, it's a work in progress and it might not provide the full picture of anything either but hopefully, it can at least give some context to my thought process.

    As for AST, I've never really given it as much thought as WHM or SCH, which are my preferred jobs, so I'm not really sure on how to improve on it much.
    I suppose the main thing I would do would be to separate cards into 2 categories, Major/Minor Arcana.
    Major Arcana would provide the generic DPS card buffs. Whether they remain just flat damage buffs or focus more on stat buffs can go either way for me really.
    Minor Arcana would be support cards that grant mitigation, extra healing, or shielding.
    I'd change Undraw to Hand of Fate, that turns the currently drawn card into Lord/Lady of Crown instead of being a meaningless button.
    While I hesitate to change their healing skills since they work fine, something that I would like to see would be an emphasis on Regens. Similar to how old CO would extend the duration of buffs that the AST gave, I would like to see that mechanic return as well as an inverse of it where they could trade away a Regen to turn it into a burst heal instead.
    I don't really see a reason to keep the Seal system either. Astrodyne is a weak skill, even at 3 seals, that they could probably just turn it into a 2 minute buff with all 3 bonuses without it really impacting AST all that much.

    Not really sure what else to do with AST though so take that with a grain of salt.

    Edit: This is what happens when you post at 2am lol. I'll edit this to clarify some things.
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    Last edited by Silver-Strider; 03-02-2023 at 07:05 AM.