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  1. #141
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    No; they don't.

    The current system can be balanced.
    The current system can't be balanced.. FC trade for RMT og GIL is a big thing in FFXIV as well.... it is better to make FC houses instanced where you can enter them eg. via the Grand Company you alligned it with and make wards for people wanting a house only.

    Current system does not allow or permit any form of trades between players for player owned housing plots, the FC method does permit RMT and plots is sold on shady sites for Real Life Funds as well as Gil.

    Demonetizing special materials for submarines and more could be a good thing as well and other things among it.... such as when you return with your ship/submarine you get 200 of that material you picked up, to prevent the farms from happening as well.
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  2. #142
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    Maya Jcb
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    Halicarnassus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    The current system can't be balanced.. FC trade for RMT og GIL is a big thing in FFXIV as well.... it is better to make FC houses instanced where you can enter them eg. via the Grand Company you alligned it with and make wards for people wanting a house only.

    Current system does not allow or permit any form of trades between players for player owned housing plots, the FC method does permit RMT and plots is sold on shady sites for Real Life Funds as well as Gil.

    Demonetizing special materials for submarines and more could be a good thing as well and other things among it.... such as when you return with your ship/submarine you get 200 of that material you picked up, to prevent the farms from happening as well.
    I have an idea, how about no ?

    Leave housing alone, get your instanced housing if you want, but leave people with a house and fcs with a house alone.
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  3. #143
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    CatStarwind's Avatar
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    Drufel Starwind
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    After all the gas lighting I do not believe playing victim suits you. Though I must say there's some poetry in going full circle.

    No one wants to take anything away from people who acquired plots as intended, this includes those grandfathered before 2018. There's a reason why the discord and the community at large always warns of the precarious nature of exploiting loopholes. Abuse like that is against TOS and much like shaders flys under the radar until it attracts enough attention.
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  4. #144
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatStarwind View Post
    After all the gas lighting I do not believe playing victim suits you. Though I must say there's some poetry in going full circle.

    No one wants to take anything away from people who acquired plots as intended, this includes those grandfathered before 2018. There's a reason why the discord and the community at large always warns of the precarious nature of exploiting loopholes. Abuse like that is against TOS and much like shaders flys under the radar until it attracts enough attention.
    So you are okay with people with entire wards if they were grandfathered, but not okay with people taking entire wards now.

    You are a new breed of troll
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  5. #145
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    PaalHenrik's Avatar
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    Sagittarius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    So you are okay with people with entire wards if they were grandfathered, but not okay with people taking entire wards now.

    You are a new breed of troll
    I think it's time to stop feeding him.
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  6. #146
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    Shadowkat's Avatar
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    Niwo'tan Masaki
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    Marilith
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    So you are okay with people with entire wards if they were grandfathered, but not okay with people taking entire wards now.

    You are a new breed of troll
    You know there is a group of FCs on Marileth that is literally the same people Im suspecting, with 1 or two people in said free company. They took the entire Goblet ward 1 plots 31 to 60. How is that even fair for those ppl who want plots? Whatever. Whoever they are must have a lot of Gil to blow to own and entire ward.
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  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowkat View Post
    You know there is a group of FCs on Marileth that is literally the same people Im suspecting, with 1 or two people in said free company. They took the entire Goblet ward 1 plots 31 to 60. How is that even fair for those ppl who want plots? Whatever. Whoever they are must have a lot of Gil to blow to own and entire ward.
    I was just on NA the other day and there are plenty of houses available still. Instead of focusing on what you can not have, focus on what you can have (if you'd just put in the effort - scary thought-).
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  8. #148
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    Niwo'tan Masaki
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    Oh I have a house already, I was thinking more about the other players or FCs more so than me. I did my best, saved my gil and got myself a nice house. Its not perfect, but its perfect for me. I'm just baffled that someone bought an entire FC ward. Kinda surprised, but whatever. Housing will always be what ppl grumble about no matter how much they try to balance it. I mean, the lottery system is okay I guess? Not perfect, but its workable.
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    Last edited by Shadowkat; 02-28-2023 at 08:39 PM.

  9. #149
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    Drufel Starwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    So you are okay with people with entire wards if they were grandfathered, but not okay with people taking entire wards now.

    You are a new breed of troll
    YoshiP is a troll?
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  10. #150
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    Drufel Starwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowkat View Post
    I'm just baffled that someone bought an entire FC ward.
    Abusing workshops/submarines can allow for some crafty RMTing apparently.
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