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  1. #31
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    Chryden Speakel
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    A good healer improves the expert roulette speed more then any tank.
    As a healer I don't care about what Tank is in the group because I can keep them all alive with oGCD heales while spamming AOEs.

    If I have a WAR in my group then I will just have more overheal.
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  2. #32
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Playing a less powerful/optimal class for a dungeon is not really trolling, refusing to play to the best of your ability in your chosen job/class would be deemed as trolling, however.

    It ultimately comes down to intent, really.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    I assume you mean Equilibrium, than one is actually 2200p (1200p + 5 x 200p/tick). But otherwise generally solid comment.

    One small addition here is that Thrill of Battle's recovery boost affects every single heal potency Warrior has.

    - Equilibrium (direct + regen)
    - Shake it Off (direct + regen)
    - Raw Intuition / Bloodwhetting / Nascent Flash
    - Storm's Path finisher heal

    But yeah, honestly despite all of that I currently think I feel like im trolling not playing DRK right now. In content where the mitigation isn't as necessary for myself I can toss Oblation + TBN on other targets with great liberty and in content where it matters, I am still very tanky, bring a ton of damage and am conditionally (almost forced thanks to them designing fights around it) even more powerful with Dark Mind. That and Living Dead is arguably the best invuln now, short of the 1min shorter cooldown of Holmgang.

    Tough times honestly.
    IIRC the Thrill heal boost doesn't affect the RI/Bloodwhetting/NF heals. I remember that being a thing people tested on 6.0 release.
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  4. #34
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    ReynTime's Avatar
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    Not being a meta slave =! "trolling".
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  5. #35
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    IIRC the Thrill heal boost doesn't affect the RI/Bloodwhetting/NF heals. I remember that being a thing people tested on 6.0 release.
    Turns out that one is completely right, I'll correct my original post for that.

    Probably because the healing from it isn't specifically originating from a "healing action" like Storm's Path, Shake it Off and Equilibrium I guess. On the bright side, means you don't have to worry about potential value you wouldn't get otherwise.

    A small addendum - while less relevant, there are ways to enhance the healing potency from RI/BW/NF.

    Where Thrill of Battle specifically mentions HP recovery via healing actions on self, a tool like Essence of the Savior lists "Increases healing potency by 60%". Banner of Solemn Clarity also works. This I just tested because I felt like remembering that I found ways to enhance that heal before.




    So in this case for the heal to be enhanced it must not list the source of the healing potency, only that the healing potency or healing recovery is enhanced as RI/BW/NF don't count as "healing action".
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    Last edited by Reinhardt_Azureheim; 02-28-2023 at 01:05 AM.

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Turns out that one is completely right, I'll correct my original post for that.

    Probably because the healing from it isn't specifically originating from a "healing action" like Storm's Path, Shake it Off and Equilibrium I guess. On the bright side, means you don't have to worry about potential value you wouldn't get otherwise.
    Yeah, it would be a little redundant in most use cases, but part of me wishes it did just for laughs.
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  7. #37
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    I assume you mean Equilibrium, than one is actually 2200p (1200p + 5 x 200p/tick). But otherwise generally solid comment.

    One small addition here is that Thrill of Battle's recovery boost affects every single heal potency Warrior has.
    Ah yes, for whatever reason my brain told me it's 100p per tick... yeah it's 200p. Apologies.

    I also forgot to add ToB as well. Thank you.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    Yeah, it would be a little redundant in most use cases, but part of me wishes it did just for laughs.
    *small update on that response post 15min later, go check it out o3o/*
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    *small update on that response post 15min later, go check it out o3o/*
    Well now that is interesting.

    Damn, I wish we had current WAR during the heyday of DR, I went healer spec a few times when we were all otherwise DPS.
    I bet it'd be great with the new regen on Shake as well.
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  10. #40
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    If I have a WAR in my group then I will just have more overheal.
    Why? Just don't heal the WAR unless they turn out to be bad. Any halfway decent WAR doesn't even need you, save maybe for on one or two very specific pulls if the DPS is a little low, or in dungeons that sync them below having all their fun buttons. You'd be much better served keeping yourself and the DPS up as needed and DPSing at all other times.
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