Return old rewards to provide more incentive for veterans to PvP.

[JuicyHeals]

that is literally the mentality of the old feast players lol
They just don't other people to have what they got because they want to feel special.

Was that not literally the point of feast? You had to be a certain rank to claim the rewards? Regardless if it's legitimate or not it wouldn't be fair to those who actually grinded it.

Edit: infact it'd be a real slap in the face tbh, I'm of the mentality that it's okay for everyone not to have everything. Pvpers have their special rewards and pvers have theirs.

[SeiyaSoiya]

Was that not literally the point of feast? You had to be a certain rank to claim the rewards? Regardless if it's legitimate or not it wouldn't be fair to those who actually grinded it.

Edit: infact it'd be a real slap in the face tbh, I'm of the mentality that it's okay for everyone not to have everything. Pvpers have their special rewards and pvers have theirs.

just like ultimates it's ok if the barrier to acquiring something is time investment, skill, social networking or luck

not when the barrier to acquiring something is a timw travel machine

[Iscah]

Do you think we would have any real athletic competition in the world if every group could gain access to the rewards of winning championships, races, or leagues?

I greatly doubt that sportspeople are doing it entirely for the physical trophy.

Also, out in the real world, it is entirely possible to make a replica of an Olympic gold medal if you really want one. Or you can get a trophy and write anything you like on it. There's nothing magically blocking people from copying an object or outfit.

[RyanCousland]

It wasn't just a limited time item like the Goobbue, the tattoo, or the legacy chocobo. They are actual rated distinction items awarded for excellence in performance during the time frame they were given out. Do you think we would have any real athletic competition in the world if every group could gain access to the rewards of winning championships, races, or leagues? You don't need to have them. If you couldn't make top one hindered when they were released it would be pointless anyway. Even a recolor is just a placebo for the problem. You really just want to obtain everything but at the end of the day everyone misses out on something, and nobody even makes use of half the 'stuff' the game gives them. I never made a top one hundred or top thirty, but I respect the effort that went into it for those who did. The mind set of "I want it all" is toxic at best and damaging to the game at worst. Let it go.

access doesnt equate to acquisition take the ultimate raids for example they're accessible for those that excel in pve but not everyone is capable of doing them, theres also titles that distinguish pvpers from each other that are available, its not really a need , its solution to problem 14 has when it comes to rewards take the ASS v&c dungeon rewards for example, i think youre just generalizing the i want it all mentality because it doesnt hold water when you actually think about, introducing the old rewards would possibly spark more interest in pvp take the garo event for example which had a high amount of participation

[Rufalus]

Do you think we would have any real athletic competition in the world if every group could gain access to the rewards of winning championships, races, or leagues?

If you gave out millions of replica Olympic gold medals it wouldn't diminish the achievement of the person who actually competed and won the real one. Yes you would still have competitions.

My compromise was just adding mounts in a distinctly different color so they don't even look the same as the ranked rewards, besides also not being coupled with the achievement, title and housing trophy that ranked players had.

It's not a big deal but some of those already-created models are quite nice so it's a shame for them to never be available again.

Or a different compromise is to still only give them to ranked players but loop back around to give a second chance at those same Feast rewards, this time in ranked Crystalline Conflict.

[Divinemights]

What is the point?
False Monarchy set is pretty much the same reward throphy of Feast and it didn't help Crystal Conflict when it is accessible by everyone; isnt it?

[RyanCousland]

Was that not literally the point of feast? You had to be a certain rank to claim the rewards? Regardless if it's legitimate or not it wouldn't be fair to those who actually grinded it.

Edit: infact it'd be a real slap in the face tbh, I'm of the mentality that it's okay for everyone not to have everything. Pvpers have their special rewards and pvers have theirs.

the difference is accessibility tho pve'ers have the opportunity regardless when they joined or started playing whereas pvp doesnt theres also my other point above i think your making a strawman argument with the not having everything mentality and unless you were the top 100 i dont think you could say its a slap in face

[RyanCousland]

What is the point?
False Monarchy set is pretty much the same reward throphy of Feast and it didn't help Crystal Conflict when it is accessible by everyone; isnt it?

what evidence are you asserting? this is just a general claim, but casual is quite busy because of these rewards whereas feast was not

[Elfidan]

I greatly doubt that sportspeople are doing it entirely for the physical trophy.

Also, out in the real world, it is entirely possible to make a replica of an Olympic gold medal if you really want one. Or you can get a trophy and write anything you like on it. There's nothing magically blocking people from copying an object or outfit.

I would equate this to using 'technology' to achieve the same effect in game. Neither is something that should be perused by any reasonable person. It's more like the rash of posers a few years back pretending to be retired service members.

access doesnt equate to acquisition take the ultimate raids for example they're accessible for those that excel in pve but not everyone is capable of doing them, theres also titles that distinguish pvpers from each other that are available, its not really a need , its solution to problem 14 has when it comes to rewards take the ASS v&c dungeon rewards for example, i think youre just generalizing the i want it all mentality because it doesnt hold water when you actually think about, introducing the old rewards would possibly spark more interest in pvp take the garo event for example which had a high amount of participation

You contradict yourself here. If you can't clear Ultimate you can't have the weapon or the title, but Ultimate is always available and gets easier as time goes on due to other balance elements of the games design. Top one hundred and top thirty are always a battle of wits between people who exceed the skill set of the average player. If you spend any time in this part of the forum or other parts you will constantly see people asking for things to be made available again because they missed out or weren't playing yet. These however are not rewards from a crossover event or the like. They are literal trophies from a previous series. As for getting more people to be involved by letting them have armor that was modeled for people at a higher skill level than them how will that do anything but cause a bump that then descends into more of the same once those people have what they want since they aren't really pvpers to begin with. What needs to happen is more rewards in general and less of the 1-2 actual new things and every kind of materia to fill out the lacking selection in the shops like so much sand in taco bells meat. Asking for reissuance of previous items is one thing but asking for items you couldn't get before is just ignorant. You can't seriously compare the garo event with rank rewards. That's like comparing dungeon drops and Savage drops. They're worlds apart.

[Elfidan]

It's not a big deal but some of those already-created models are quite nice so it's a shame for them to never be available again.

Don't give them that much credit, every mount is snitched from something that already exists in the game.