Return old rewards to provide more incentive for veterans to PvP.

[RyanCousland]

It wasn't just a limited time item like the Goobbue, the tattoo, or the legacy chocobo. They are actual rated distinction items awarded for excellence in performance during the time frame they were given out. Do you think we would have any real athletic competition in the world if every group could gain access to the rewards of winning championships, races, or leagues? You don't need to have them. If you couldn't make top one hindered when they were released it would be pointless anyway. Even a recolor is just a placebo for the problem. You really just want to obtain everything but at the end of the day everyone misses out on something, and nobody even makes use of half the 'stuff' the game gives them. I never made a top one hundred or top thirty, but I respect the effort that went into it for those who did. The mind set of "I want it all" is toxic at best and damaging to the game at worst. Let it go.

access doesnt equate to acquisition take the ultimate raids for example they're accessible for those that excel in pve but not everyone is capable of doing them, theres also titles that distinguish pvpers from each other that are available, its not really a need , its solution to problem 14 has when it comes to rewards take the ASS v&c dungeon rewards for example, i think youre just generalizing the i want it all mentality because it doesnt hold water when you actually think about, introducing the old rewards would possibly spark more interest in pvp take the garo event for example which had a high amount of participation

[Elfidan]

I greatly doubt that sportspeople are doing it entirely for the physical trophy.

Also, out in the real world, it is entirely possible to make a replica of an Olympic gold medal if you really want one. Or you can get a trophy and write anything you like on it. There's nothing magically blocking people from copying an object or outfit.

I would equate this to using 'technology' to achieve the same effect in game. Neither is something that should be perused by any reasonable person. It's more like the rash of posers a few years back pretending to be retired service members.

access doesnt equate to acquisition take the ultimate raids for example they're accessible for those that excel in pve but not everyone is capable of doing them, theres also titles that distinguish pvpers from each other that are available, its not really a need , its solution to problem 14 has when it comes to rewards take the ASS v&c dungeon rewards for example, i think youre just generalizing the i want it all mentality because it doesnt hold water when you actually think about, introducing the old rewards would possibly spark more interest in pvp take the garo event for example which had a high amount of participation

You contradict yourself here. If you can't clear Ultimate you can't have the weapon or the title, but Ultimate is always available and gets easier as time goes on due to other balance elements of the games design. Top one hundred and top thirty are always a battle of wits between people who exceed the skill set of the average player. If you spend any time in this part of the forum or other parts you will constantly see people asking for things to be made available again because they missed out or weren't playing yet. These however are not rewards from a crossover event or the like. They are literal trophies from a previous series. As for getting more people to be involved by letting them have armor that was modeled for people at a higher skill level than them how will that do anything but cause a bump that then descends into more of the same once those people have what they want since they aren't really pvpers to begin with. What needs to happen is more rewards in general and less of the 1-2 actual new things and every kind of materia to fill out the lacking selection in the shops like so much sand in taco bells meat. Asking for reissuance of previous items is one thing but asking for items you couldn't get before is just ignorant. You can't seriously compare the garo event with rank rewards. That's like comparing dungeon drops and Savage drops. They're worlds apart.

[RyanCousland]

You contradict yourself here. If you can't clear Ultimate you can't have the weapon or the title, but Ultimate is always available and gets easier as time goes on due to other balance elements of the games design.

the point is about accessibility/opportunity which is a rebuttal of your statement i dont think youve cleared an ultimate to make that statement because the majority who have will say regardless of wether or not its easier with each expansion it still take tremendous effort however despite the effort the opportunity to claim those rewards will always be available so im pretty sure its not a contradiction theres also POTD

Top one hundred and top thirty are always a battle of wits between people who exceed the skill set of the average player. If you spend any time in this part of the forum or other parts you will constantly see people asking for things to be made available again because they missed out or weren't playing yet. These however are not rewards from a crossover event or the like. They are literal trophies from a previous series. As for getting more people to be involved by letting them have armor that was modeled for people at a higher skill level than them how will that do anything but cause a bump that then descends into more of the same once those people have what they want since they aren't really pvpers to begin with. What needs to happen is more rewards in general and less of the 1-2 actual new things and every kind of materia to fill out the lacking selection in the shops like so much sand in taco bells meat. Asking for reissuance of previous items is one thing but asking for items you couldn't get before is just ignorant. You can't seriously compare the garo event with rank rewards. That's like comparing dungeon drops and Savage drops. They're worlds apart.

so you admit it will cause a surge of activity yet you still dont understand its benfit, everything that requires skill and effort is a trophy so again creating a cut off makes no sense when compared to everything else, the rest of your statement is just generalization and an unusual analogy.
the point made by the garo rewards wasnt a comparison of rank rewards it was point about participation/activity, youre gaslighting at this point

[Elfidan]

the point is about accessibility/opportunity which is a rebuttal of your statement i dont think youve cleared an ultimate to make that statement because the majority who have will say regardless of wether or not its easier with each expansion it still take tremendous effort however despite the effort the opportunity to claim those rewards will always be available so im pretty sure its not a contradiction theres also POTD

I have no interest in Ultimates personally but then I never went in for the synchronized swimming that pve has become. Ask anyone that does them regularly however and they will in fact tell you that they have become progressively easier. The same goes for PotD and HoH. What is you reasoning to bring them into the conversation when it just makes the same exact point for me.

so you admit it will cause a surge of activity yet you still dont understand its benfit, everything that requires skill and effort is a trophy so again creating a cut off makes no sense when compared to everything else, the rest of your statement is just generalization and an unusual analogy.
the point made by the garo rewards wasnt a comparison of rank rewards it was point about participation/activity, youre gaslighting at this point

All activity is not good activity. Where do you think the AFKers throwers and other degens come from? 'Ooo shiny, me want! AUGH! ME HATE PVP! me know... me afk heh heh heh.' The garo sets are a completely different animal to rated rewards. You're comparing apples to oranges. Objecting to this farce of an opinion is not in fact gaslighting. Do you feel manipulated? If discourse with me leaves you questioning your sanity, were you ever truly sane?

[RyanCousland]

I have no interest in Ultimates personally but then I never went in for the synchronized swimming that pve has become. Ask anyone that does them regularly however and they will in fact tell you that they have become progressively easier. The same goes for PotD and HoH. What is you reasoning to bring them into the conversation when it just makes the same exact point for me.

anything you do regularly obviously becomes easier because it becomes habitual however you ask those same people if UWU or UCOB was difficult when they 1st tried in either SHB or EW and i'll guarantee you that they'll say it was difficult which was the whole point, and now your moving the goalpost also if POTD or HOH are easy now then why hasnt the clear rate increased? because regardless of each expansion this content will be difficult. all of my examples refute your point, i think you need to revisit some grammar lessons as well as take some reading comprehension classes, unless you're just a forum troll with no experience in anything you're talking about (which seems to be the case) then carry on my goob

All activity is not good activity. Where do you think the AFKers throwers and other degens come from? 'Ooo shiny, me want! AUGH! ME HATE PVP! me know... me afk heh heh heh.' The garo sets are a completely different animal to rated rewards. You're comparing apples to oranges. Objecting to this farce of an opinion is not in fact gaslighting. Do you feel manipulated? If discourse with me leaves you questioning your sanity, were you ever truly sane?

if a 100 people participate simply due to the incentive of the rewards and out of those 100, 10 become interested in pvp and put in effort then yes its worth it unless you prefer to fight the same people over and over again especially in crystal (which im honestly doubting that you actually pvp), Again i made no comparison between garo and rank rewards by saying that i did, you are indeed gaslighting , i suggest you go through my response again after you take some classes, i think you might be inferring that im saying that acquiring those rewards are the same which im not my point was about the activity that garo brought which isnt a hard concept to grasp considering the evidence but again youre here to troll so carry on