Elitist Housing Must Go. Every Single Player Should Have A House.

[Stib]

To be an Elitist, is not given for free.

[Jojoya]

Still looks like shit.

You're talking about the art aesthetic, not the housing systems. ESO has a medieval/Dark Ages aesthetic and so that's what is used for their housing.

Take their systems and move them here, and it would be the FFXIV aesthetic being used just as it is now. The difference would be that some of the current creations that take a considerable amount of time to prepare could be done in less time, not to mention everyone could get the housing location of their choice instead of settling for a Goblet small because everything else was sold out..

Housing in XIV being limited and requiring you to stay subbed is what keeps it active and enjoyed by the people who have it. Housing might as well not exist in ESO, almost nobody bothers with it outside of a tiny RP subset of the population.

Trust me, I don't enjoy my house because I'm required to stay subbed to keep it or because it's limited. That's the argument of elitists who value things based on assumed prestige.

I enjoy my house as a creative outlet. I'll redecorate a few times a year. I'd be fine if every player in the game had the same plot I did because what they do with their plot is for their enjoyment. What I do with my plot is for mine.

[CatStarwind]

Housing in XIV being limited and requiring you to stay subbed is what keeps it active and enjoyed by the people who have it. Housing might as well not exist in ESO, almost nobody bothers with it outside of a tiny RP subset of the population.

Housing being a neighborhood (ward) system is what keeps it active and enjoyed by the people who have it. Housing being practically invisible is what leads it to be practically non-existent.

[UkcsAlias]

Housing being a neighborhood (ward) system is what keeps it active and enjoyed by the people who have it. Housing being practically invisible is what leads it to be practically non-existent.

The only visitors i had were people from the novice network or private linkshell. And they realy dont care whether its truly a house, or an appartment on that.

Wards barely do anything as most of the time they are just completely dead in interaction. The only reason to have them is because something has to be loaded in to allow players to be teleported to between dungeons. That they support some houses for display is nice, but outside of that barely has any function. If houses would be instanced and allow teleporting to in similar fashion to appartments, barely anything would change.

The argument of having it look like a nice city can also backfire, because some house facades (and the ways of people decorating them) are plain horrible. The only reason its like that is because its unique and changing wards does change some appearances. And i can imagine that if it was FCs only, and FCs had more interaction, that it would help on that part to get some interaction. But thats not how most FCs work in this game. There is rarely any use to visit your FC house as usualy most members dont have any interaction in there. FC appartments are rarely built, and workshop access is often still restricted (if each player at least could make a private airship etc, then it could get more players to interact).

[PaalHenrik]

"You're talking about the art aesthetic, not the housing systems. ESO has a medieval/Dark Ages aesthetic and so that's what is used for their housing. " - can't edit properly, got real life lalafells begging for snacks atm.

I played ESO and got a few houses. Even got some pretty cool mansion. Still looked like shit. Plus, if you wanted a bigger better house, you'd have to shell out real money to buy the ESO currency. And you didn't get random short people erping in your bathtub unless you let them in. Where's the fun in that?

[CatStarwind]

The only visitors i had were people from the novice network or private linkshell. And they realy dont care whether its truly a house, or an appartment on that.

It is admittedly a pretty subjective experience. There's plenty of times where the FC or personal house was constantly used and stretches of time where it isn't.

To me what makes it are those times it's in use. So even if it is "completely dead" for maybe a month, when there's a holiday party or treasure hunt night it's really something ephemeral.

End of day though it is a communal space and therein lies the rub. When treated like exploitable games features it defeats that purpose and just compounds the feeling of emptiness.

[Mr_Happy]

"You're talking about the art aesthetic, not the housing systems. ESO has a medieval/Dark Ages aesthetic and so that's what is used for their housing. " - can't edit properly, got real life lalafells begging for snacks atm.

I played ESO and got a few houses. Even got some pretty cool mansion. Still looked like shit. Plus, if you wanted a bigger better house, you'd have to shell out real money to buy the ESO currency. And you didn't get random short people erping in your bathtub unless you let them in. Where's the fun in that?

You can buy ESO currency from other players if you have money in game. Main reason for me to have houses in that game is for dueling arenas and parsing on your targets dummies to learn the complicated weaving system.

With the housing mod you can make houses from scratch also, many nice looking places if you check out some youtube videos or FB housing groups

[Mr_Happy]

It is admittedly a pretty subjective experience. There's plenty of times where the FC or personal house was constantly used and stretches of time where it isn't.

To me what makes it are those times it's in use. So even if it is "completely dead" for maybe a month, when there's a holiday party or treasure hunt night it's really something ephemeral.

End of day though it is a communal space and therein lies the rub. When treated like exploitable games features it defeats that purpose and just compounds the feeling of emptiness.

In the FC I am part of there is almost always players at the house, it's pretty cool

[Mr_Happy]

To be an Elitist, is not given for free.

We are not asking for a free house.

I will Glady spend the Gil to pay for it

[Maxlordthe4th]

I'm reasonably sure this is a technical issue- if you've got a lot the game keeps track of where you've placed every single little thing in said lot and that adds up to a lot of data to load whenever anyone accesses it. Now obviously many games can and have pulled this off but FFXIV has a lot of what's called "technical debt"- it's been remade completely and added to over a long period of time and there's still code from 1.0 floating around in there somewhere. Housing, inventory space, and the character models are clearly a thing where every minor change they make probably involves more work than it should.

Like I'd love for them to be able to solve this and everyone to be able to buy a house but I'm not sure they can?