Solutions for Content Drought during between Patches & other solutions for Gameplay

[Midareyukki]

Sorry but I don't want relic content to be exactly the same every expac. Bozja design is to watered down imo anyways compared to Eureka

I have the opposite opinion. I think Eureka has its own style because it's trying to copy FF11 and older MMOs. Bozja wasn't trying to do that, and instead features far more to it than Eureka does. Eureka only has mob grinding and NMs, with bunny fates and BA added after. Bozja requires mob grinding to spawn Skirmishes, which in turn give way to Critical Engagements. There are the Duels, you have those mobs SE kinda dropped the ball on since they can just be oneshot with Death anyway, and CLL, Dalriada and Delubrum Reginae, which one could argue are the precursors to Variant Dungeons.

I'd still say both contents deserved more. Each was a step in the right direction in their own right. I prefer Bozja over Eureka on account of despite it being "watered down", it actually cleansed what I found absolutely dreadful of Eureka. But I also know people who prefer Eureka's more challenging map over Bozja being more straightforward.

Which is why even though I hold the opposite opinion, I still agree: we need like more things like it. Not necessarily for a relic grind. We need something fresh for that. But those are contents that do work and have their own portion of the fanbase that cared.

[Duskane]

I also have an idea:

Bring the relic quest earlier.

Back in ARR and HW we did not have to wait for over a year to finally get grind-content. Oh we already did get the relic quest? Sorry did not notice, but yeah, I think I have a weapon lying in my armoury, no idea how it got there, maybe I was standing too close to an NPC or whatever.

Imagine if they would release the savage raid only after one year in the expansion. That's how it feels for people who like grinding.

also this
it was understandable for the wait with Eureka and Bozja but because current relic is like HW so no real reason we couldn't have it from the start

[Jojoya]

Hoping for something a little more inventive than farming old fates for crazy amounts of items to upgrade your weapon but it wouldn't shock me if that is the route they take. Hopefully if they do the fate spam it will be in current or ShB zones so I can at least farm bicolor gemstones while doing it.

A lot of players were asking for a return to the relic farms of ARR and HW so that might well be what we're getting (with the possibility that Variant/Criterion dungeons will play a role). They would have announced by now if there was going to be a new exploration zone (even if they didn't share details).

Players should probably think back to how they ended up doing most of their early grinding in Shadowbringers when they had options. Were they doing it in Bozja/Zadnor, or were they doing it in the older content? That would have influenced the design for this expansion.

If they were doing it in the older content just for the sake of efficiency even though they claim to dislike doing it that way, then they only have themselves to blame if that's what they get this time.

[IkaraGreydancer]

A lot of players were asking for a return to the relic farms of ARR and HW so that might well be what we're getting (with the possibility that Variant/Criterion dungeons will play a role). They would have announced by now if there was going to be a new exploration zone (even if they didn't share details).

Players should probably think back to how they ended up doing most of their early grinding in Shadowbringers when they had options. Were they doing it in Bozja/Zadnor, or were they doing it in the older content? That would have influenced the design for this expansion.

If they were doing it in the older content just for the sake of efficiency even though they claim to dislike doing it that way, then they only have themselves to blame if that's what they get this time.

Judging from the huge uproar when it was revealed you DID need to do the instance to progress I'm willing to bet many many people did the old content route. I'd say you're 100% on the money there

[Raoabolic]

Judging from the huge uproar when it was revealed you DID need to do the instance to progress I'm willing to bet many many people did the old content route. I'd say you're 100% on the money there

The devs might actually be proactive with the relic grind if they are going the ARR route since tying relic progress to DR was going to become harder and harder to find people to run consistently for relic purposes. Then again, Eureka is still poppin' so who knows, lol. That said, how angry would the playerbase be if they added something as grindy as the zodiac books for the new relic? lol
It would make it more solo friendly but... geeze, I would take light farming over books any day.

[IkaraGreydancer]

The devs might actually be proactive with the relic grind if they are going the ARR route since tying relic progress to DR was going to become harder and harder to find people to run consistently for relic purposes. Then again, Eureka is still poppin' so who knows, lol. That said, how angry would the playerbase be if they added something as grindy as the zodiac books for the new relic? lol
It would make it more solo friendly but... geeze, I would take light farming over books any day.

If they did give us a pre nerf ARR grind for EW that'll be something yeah. If we do get that those complaining about there being nothing to do better be happy xD

[Absimiliard]

Pre-nerf ARR style relic grind? Sign me right the heck up. Extra points if the light farm forces people into EX trials like in the old days. Give'em the choice of doing content they normally wouldn't or spending the next twelve years working on the relic weapon.

[Jojoya]

It would make it more solo friendly but... geeze, I would take light farming over books any day.

I was the opposite. I didn't mind the books because they kept me rotating through different content. The light farm, on the other hand, was mindnumbing.