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    Quote Originally Posted by Oni_Akuma View Post
    Agreed. Especially when I can beat 99% of you players [now & Feast] on a 1 v 1. Yeah the job I play is broke [currently/still my main], but it requires true combo to do it right. That aside, there is no high skill floor, since I (1 v 3) to (1 v 5) duel people in CC just to satiate my thirst for blood and the rush of staying on the edge like Feast did.

    The skill floor is raised, so many of you toddlers can reach the ceiling. Sorry not sorry, cause like I am gonna say before my sub ends. 99% of you players are weaklings.
    Putting aside that you sound incredibly cringe with your talking down to others to be toddlers like as if you are someone special, I believe you are mistaking "skill floor got raised" with "skill floor got relocated".

    As a whole, killing got made fundamentally easier and less reliant on full party bursts (not counting FL/RW) and almost every job has a fair bit of individual impact right now. People no longer need to rely on Healers to stay alive with most jobs.

    On the flipside, with individualism comes the responsibility, which is where the floor is raised again and not having a healer up your a** 24/7 to bail you out of your bad decision making means you now more than ever abuse physical cover and running away to make up for it.

    It got lowered in one place, raised in another. I don't think it actually raised as a whole, but the personal skill requirement is different to before.

    None of this is skill ceiling though, that is a completely different thing and depends per job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Putting aside that you sound incredibly cringe with your talking down to others to be toddlers like as if you are someone special, I believe you are mistaking "skill floor got raised" with "skill floor got relocated".

    As a whole, killing got made fundamentally easier and less reliant on full party bursts (not counting FL/RW) and almost every job has a fair bit of individual impact right now. People no longer need to rely on Healers to stay alive with most jobs.

    On the flipside, with individualism comes the responsibility, which is where the floor is raised again and not having a healer up your a** 24/7 to bail you out of your bad decision making means you now more than ever abuse physical cover and running away to make up for it.

    It got lowered in one place, raised in another. I don't think it actually raised as a whole, but the personal skill requirement is different to before.

    None of this is skill ceiling though, that is a completely different thing and depends per job.
    I don't gotta be saved in previous mode. My burst was enough to keep me alive in a 1 v 5 or more during feast skill set. Healers never needed to save me cause I had a 17-20k Bloodbath heal combo and perfect pot timing. I'm allowed to be cringe-ish. That comes with mastering PvP and the games hard coded mechanics.

    To the smallest detail in micromanagement and optimization.

    Idk how you can relocate a floor under a roof though? How does that make sense? If you mean it as housing, then yeah its a new House with a new floor and ceiling, then yes it makes sense. Now it is slightly more team based / and less individual skill based in some regions, but overall it is still childs play compared to all the micromanagement that had to be done before. Like yeah with LB now being the tool for execution for individuality, it still relies on a team coordination.

    Before I killed every class in 6-8s flat combo when burst was ready without an LB. All tanks and healers died when a weaved combo was performed with LB. Even the infamous GNB/DRK and Healers. This every 1m+ [exception to RPR] LB gimmick is just funny entirely.

    Personal skill is different before, but overall the calculations are the same in lining up your moves for optimal damage just like PvE.
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    Last edited by Oni_Akuma; 02-18-2023 at 11:53 PM.

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