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  1. #131
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    Dal S'ta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    Whatever the case may be, I really doubt it's a truly insurmountable technical hurdle...
    Nothing is truly insurmountable. The question becomes:

    How long do you want to wait for the next patch or expansion? Because making major changes to one of the primary systems for gearing is not necessarily going to be simple or cheap.

    They could, for example, completely replace the underlying game engine. Would it be a wise business decision? No. Would it attract enough new players to justify the immediate costs? No way to determine that. We'll count that as a maybe. They could replace the entire game. Would that be reasonable? No - but it is definitely doable.
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  2. #132
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Nothing is truly insurmountable. The question becomes:

    How long do you want to wait for the next patch or expansion? Because making major changes to one of the primary systems for gearing is not necessarily going to be simple or cheap.

    They could, for example, completely replace the underlying game engine. Would it be a wise business decision? No. Would it attract enough new players to justify the immediate costs? No way to determine that. We'll count that as a maybe. They could replace the entire game. Would that be reasonable? No - but it is definitely doable.
    Exactly. It's more of a question of value. They already tried to mimic other systems and it didn't work out. They moved on. They're now focused on improving the game and setting up the next 10 years. Playing around with a system that isn't broken for the sake of a niche group of people who want to dress different isn't worth it right now and it probably never will be.
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Nothing is truly insurmountable. The question becomes:

    How long do you want to wait for the next patch or expansion? Because making major changes to one of the primary systems for gearing is not necessarily going to be simple or cheap.

    They could, for example, completely replace the underlying game engine. Would it be a wise business decision? No. Would it attract enough new players to justify the immediate costs? No way to determine that. We'll count that as a maybe. They could replace the entire game. Would that be reasonable? No - but it is definitely doable.
    We are already waiting 4 months for no content at all, so it doesnt matter. I dont really think that replacing "can equip only by bard" to "can be equiped by phys ranged" should by massive change you all are trying to make.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Playing around with a system that isn't broken
    Its broken and stupid. Just sain.
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    Its broken and stupid. Just sain.
    You're projecting. Just sayin'
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  5. #135
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    In terms of FF, Matsui > All

    I believe he worked on XIV ARR combat system.

    Other than lock style, Monstrosity was another interesting system.

    Being a MNK in shiny Knight gear in XI is an amazing feeling.....

    If you can't tell the guy punching is a MNK, or the dude with the big axe is a WAR.....maybe you have bigger issues than what people are wearing.
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  6. #136
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    Xyno Edajos
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    You are right. Its 14th entering of the series. That means they should finally learn to not make stupid restrictions. I dont know whats so horryfing about idea, that I could use fisher gloves glam on my other DoL, or even on DoW/M jobs. Or MCH boots on my bard. Everybody is crying "BuT mY fANtasy reeeeee". No, nobody cares. Its mostly dead glam that is limiting, only few people use them and it would make it only better to unlock it.

    I seriously want the source of this, because if it from some interview that I missed, it would be interesting to read. But I dont believe it was this. If you seriously think that YoshiP, producer of the game needs to ask about every stupid little thing to higher managment, he would be fired. He is literally managing the biggest profiting project SE now have. No, he is not some puppet. He is DIRECTOR of the game.

    Male Viera is cannon, so this is pure bullshit. You didnt played FF12 so what are you so mad about? You dont even know what you are talking about holy shit. They didnt wanted to do them, because it was a big load of work to bring Viera/Hrothgar into the game and they just dont want to bother fixing stuff for new races. Not because of IP.

    Yes

    They should do that

    YoshiP said no to many things and they did it. You are not some representative of Yoshida. Stop screaming like somebody hurted you. You are seriously acting like a crybaby and know nothing about this game.

    Nobody have respect about your opinion same, as you do to ours. So stop acting like being a better person. You bring nothing.
    My dude, who pissed in your cereal, lawl. I like all these assumptions you made against me without knowing a thing. Just because you have no respect for why AF gear isn't shared doesn't mean the team shouldn't either. Calm yourself down and stop getting so upset over a ribbon and some damn gloves. Children these days can't take no for an answer.
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    Last edited by BubblyBoar; 02-18-2023 at 07:18 AM.

  7. #137
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    Fightmaster Briggs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Playing around with a system that isn't broken for the sake of a niche group of people who want to dress different isn't worth it right now and it probably never will be.
    I'd thank you to not attack your fellow players.

    If this subject isn't of interest to you, just ignore the threads- it sounds like you're starting to take all of this personally.


    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I'm only guessing from what I can see as a player, but I don't get that impression. They're just independent systems accessing gear appearances in totally different ways. The fitting room isn't the same thing as a live character dealing with stats and equippability. It's just saving individual pieces of gear, which are evidently set up with generic rules about how the pieces interact with other pieces of particular shapes, so it displays them together in a coherent way even if you could never actually equip them on your character at the same time.
    Right, but it's also a fully-functioning system within the game- one that is able to grab an item's appearance and dye data and apply it on a character model without heeding that item's requirements.

    Theoretically, the only thing they would need to do is use Glamour Plate data to grab the item's model[1][2], and then retarget where that model gets applied, from the Fitting Room character model to the Field character model.


    [1] like the Fitting Room does via Player Characters' loadouts, the Chat system, or the Glamour Dresser
    [2] To add, the Glamour Dresser being able to mix and match freely like the Fitting Room means they've already duplicated that system
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    Last edited by LordMcMutton; 02-18-2023 at 06:05 PM.

  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordMcMutton View Post
    I'd thank you to not attack your fellow players.

    If this subject isn't of interest to you, just ignore the threads- it sounds like you're starting to take all of this personally.




    Right, but it's also a fully-functioning system within the game- one that is able to grab an item's appearance and dye data and apply it on a character model without heeding that item's requirements.

    Theoretically, the only thing they would need to do is use Glamour Plate data to grab the item's model[1][2], and then retarget where that model gets applied, from the Fitting Room character model to the Field character model.


    [1] like the Fitting Room does via Player Characters' loadouts, the Chat system, or the Glamour Dresser
    [2] To add, the Glamour Dresser being able to mix and match freely like the Fitting Room means they've already duplicated that system
    Excuse me? How is Deveryn "attacking" you? I often take issue with stuff he says, but in this case he's both right and didn't "attack" anyone. For once I agree with him, this unrestricting AF gear for the few people probably isn't currently worth it to the dev team. If the subject was about unlocking all gear for glam then maybe it'd be worth it, but that's not what this thread is about.

    Good lord...
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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    Egads, a Marauder... wearing robes?? My brain cannot comprehend what I'm seeing...!

    Let me tell you about tanks wearing robes...

    Still blows me away that the all/all robe sold for 400 usd!

    Edit: link's language is a bit salty, you've been warned!
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    Last edited by Raoabolic; 02-19-2023 at 02:40 AM.

  10. #140
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    Cordelia Emery
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    ...ok so all in all we unanimously agree that all gear should be free game for glam without restriction yes, yes
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