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    It is as long as there aren't actual methods of detection outside of people reporting or people exposing themselves. How does one enforce a ToS if there isn't a way to actually know that people are using them without community intervention? If people can work around a system, they will. Doesn't matter if it's against it or not.
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    The ultimate raid series is the most difficult battle content within FFXIV, and we release this content after testing that it can be cleared without the use of any third-party tools. However, if the presumption is that this content will be tackled and cleared with the use of third-party tools, then any reason to develop high-difficulty battle content seems to be lost. It’s very difficult for me to understand as a gamer what the meaning behind using numerous third-party tools to compete to clear first would be.
    Said static member was using a zoom hack that they KNEW was forbidden, they streamed it, he got caught by OP and kicked. As it should be. After the recent debacle, there is no way in Hades he didnt know it wasnt allowed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
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    Said static member was using a zoom hack that they KNEW was forbidden, they streamed it, he got caught by OP and kicked. As it should be. After the recent debacle, there is no way in Hades he didnt know it wasnt allowed.
    And now the OP's static is falling apart.

    I wonder why
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    Just because there are no tools to detect cheats yet doesn't make them okay. They are still that...cheats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixieh View Post
    Reading all these comments supporting cheaters and demonizing the OP for doing what they think is best made me lose a lot of faith in the community just now. I guess cheating is fine if it nets you that clear huh?

    @OP: You did the right thing.
    Demonizing? Where? OP told us their story and we told OP that these are simply the consequences of their actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    And now the OP's static is falling apart.

    I wonder why
    It definitely couldn't be because OP decided to play judge, jury and executioner, right? Right..?

    There was literal public evidence of it in the form of the stream. All OP had to do was report it, let them get banned, and their static would probably all peacefully agree to finding a new team member to fill in because no one would have any idea who reported it or who was truly responsible.

    But no, OP had to prove their valiance and morality to the world and so they stirred up the conflict themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
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    Said static member was using a zoom hack that they KNEW was forbidden, they streamed it, he got caught by OP and kicked. As it should be. After the recent debacle, there is no way in Hades he didnt know it wasnt allowed.
    I think we can all agree that streaming it was a bonehead move but at the same time, if you're a small streamer the odds of you getting caught by anyone are slim to none, hell they might not even care because it wouldn't make the same waves as the number one team for the world first race cheating in an official competition.

    Honestly, if they just agreed to not stream it and keep it to themeslves, I don't see a reason why they needed to be kicked. It was a rash move in my opinion and if OP can't even have an ounce of faith in their members to give them a chance to respect that request, why are they running a static?
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    Do people just knowingly bite the bait just because they're bored?
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    Do people just knowingly bite the bait just because they're bored?
    I got 15 minutes to kill and nothing on Netflix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I got 15 minutes to kill and nothing on Netflix.
    Try Stan or Binge, they have a lot of the NCIS series. I miss Lucifer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Do people just knowingly bite the bait just because they're bored?
    I mean, it's not like there's any other thread of interest up this second. (◍´͈ꈊ`͈◍)
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