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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice9 View Post
    A lot of people seem to try to make this seem like a norm or something more acceptable, but the dev stance is pretty obvious:

    "If the presumption is that this content will be tackled and cleared with the use of third-party tools, then any reason to develop high-difficulty battle content seems to be lost."

    The issue overall is very obviously more in-depth than just "tools bad". However, I think most people can also agree that there's a pretty big difference between tools people use for accessibility, such as for disabilities or colorblindness- versus tools used for cheating- providing real-time advantages over others in gameplay instances.

    Like I've said, I don't understand opting to do the hardest content this game has to offer and then go far out of your way to make it easier for yourself. It diminishes the accomplishment. At that point it seems like said people do it solely for the bragging rights, and for none of the challenge. In which case I feel that cycle becoming relatively ironic because as this sort of cheating behavior becomes more common-knowledge to outsiders, people won't look at look at those who've cleared ultimates with the 'acclaim' people who use cheats to clear probably want from others. Instead, outsiders will simply begin to think "that person probably cheated."
    Raiders in WoW also do mythic with addons, and their achievements are not worth any less, it's not like the game plays itself for you, and I dont see how a "zoom hack" is going to suddenly make you the best player and make the content easy to do. If a person is bad, they are bad, and a zoom hack wont help them.
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    T'eliza Jomai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Raiders in WoW also do mythic with addons, and their achievements are not worth any less, it's not like the game plays itself for you, and I dont see how a "zoom hack" is going to suddenly make you the best player and make the content easy to do. If a person is bad, they are bad, and a zoom hack wont help them.
    I understand what you are saying, but WoW and FFXIV are two very different games. WoW actively appears to promote addon usage, and many have told me that a lot of fights wouldn't be clearable without them in the first place in WoW. I'm just posting the dev stance- to which the dev's specifically went out of their way to say "We don't find this clear using this cheat legitimate".

    Since the designers of the content itself have this standpoint, I believe it to be fair for XIV players to adopt it as well should they choose. Ultimately its to each their own- but when in a static, its very important to be on the same page.
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Raiders in WoW also do mythic with addons, and their achievements are not worth any less, it's not like the game plays itself for you, and I dont see how a "zoom hack" is going to suddenly make you the best player and make the content easy to do. If a person is bad, they are bad, and a zoom hack wont help them.
    big difference is, in WoW it has LONG been a virtual REQUIREMENT to have mods. one of the most pleasant things in coming to FFxiv was that you didnt need a million mods just to make it playable.

    the two are not really comparable in that aspect.
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