What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[FirstGearFirstGear]

The "Venat allowed the Rejoinings to happen" doesn't really hold water. We know she actively worked to stop the First from being destroyed. We also know that she was creating Warriors of Light throughout the eons. If you want to criticize her for failing to stop them, that's fine, but this implication that she just sat around eating grapes until Rejoining #7 doesn't work.

[Absimiliard]

The "Venat allowed the Rejoinings to happen" doesn't really hold water. We know she actively worked to stop the First from being destroyed. We also know that she was creating Warriors of Light throughout the eons. If you want to criticize her for failing to stop them, that's fine, but this implication that she just sat around eating grapes until Rejoining #7 doesn't work.

Yeah... About that. They uh.. they kinda shot that one down the time they went into detail about Venat's actual motivations and intentions. One of her chief goals was indeed to seek out the one future she knew for a fact would be "successful." It's one of those things the devs maybe should've left unknown to players, given how they wanted Venat to be perceived.

At any rate, it's a little bit late now for people to be concerning themselves with it. People's opinions have had quite a while to become set in stone. No point in even discussing anymore.

[FirstGearFirstGear]

Yeah... About that. They uh.. they kinda shot that one down the time they went into detail about Venat's actual motivations and intentions. One of her chief goals was indeed to seek out the one future she knew for a fact would be "successful." It's one of those things the devs maybe should've left unknown to players, given how they wanted Venat to be perceived.

At any rate, it's a little bit late now for people to be concerning themselves with it. People's opinions have had quite a while to become set in stone. No point in even discussing anymore.

Ah, so they did. Oh well.

[Thaciscokidd]

The "Venat allowed the Rejoinings to happen" doesn't really hold water. We know she actively worked to stop the First from being destroyed. We also know that she was creating Warriors of Light throughout the eons. If you want to criticize her for failing to stop them, that's fine, but this implication that she just sat around eating grapes until Rejoining #7 doesn't work.

But that's exactly what had to happen though. We didn't get a Chrono Trigger style time travel where the future was better because we went to the past, or a "History of Trunks" style where us traveling back to the past had no effect on our timeline at all, but a Closed Loop where we were pre-destined to go back to Elpis.

The WoL lay's to bear everything that had happened up to that point to Venat and the others in attendance, for that we technically HAD to reach that point again or you run into the butterfly effect. One less rejoining would mean one less Umbral Era/Umbral Calamity and who knows what would have been different, what empires survived and which empires would fail to form or even more specific who wouldn't have been born comes into question.

Its not that she just let them happen, its the fact that for her to reach that point they had to happen or you risk the highly likely chance that her gaining knowledge of the future wouldn't happened at all.

[Dzonathan]

The "Venat allowed the Rejoinings to happen" doesn't really hold water. We know she actively worked to stop the First from being destroyed. We also know that she was creating Warriors of Light throughout the eons. If you want to criticize her for failing to stop them, that's fine, but this implication that she just sat around eating grapes until Rejoining #7 doesn't work.

Once again: You're not defined by your intentions, but by your actions and their results.
In order for Demi-Ascian WoL Saviour to become a thing, rejoinings needed to happen.
Venat did not stop the rejoinings.
Its fair to say she might as well let them happen because she didn't actively prevented them from occuring in the first place.
All while styling herself as supreme guardian diety.

[Kozh]

The "Venat allowed the Rejoinings to happen" doesn't really hold water. We know she actively worked to stop the First from being destroyed. We also know that she was creating Warriors of Light throughout the eons. If you want to criticize her for failing to stop them, that's fine, but this implication that she just sat around eating grapes until Rejoining #7 doesn't work.

Oh it definitely works. She seems to create WoLs as fodders to prevent complete rejoining. Until the one guy she’s waiting for appears, then protect him at all cost. And the First? Of course she tried to save it, the time travel plan depended on it lol.

If she truly want to prevent rejoining, why bother spared emet? Even one unsundered surviving is a risk for the sundered.

[BRVV]

Oh it definitely works. She seems to create WoLs as fodders to prevent complete rejoining. Until the one guy she’s waiting for appears, then protect him at all cost. And the First? Of course she tried to save it, the time travel plan depended on it lol.

If she truly want to prevent rejoining, why bother spared emet? Even one unsundered surviving is a risk for the sundered.

"Sowwy i let you die but i have to because i got spoilers from the future uwu" - Venat, probably.

That's why i hate this time travel but no change BS. With that in place we could travel to the future, see everyone dead and then go back and kill everyone to preserve that future which cannot be avoided. So who is to blame? Is everything set in stone and meaningless?