Give us back the old Paladin

[AnotherPerson]

Aren't healers complaining at how little they have to heal now? At least every friend I have who heals in savage/ultimate says that. It's definitely better now than it was in the pandaemonium first tier with how much tanks need to be healed because of DoTs but adding more self healing only takes away from healers. Second, what do you mean healers have more engaging DoT gameplay than old PLD? Healers just press one button every ~30s and call it a day at least PLD had it baked into the rotation and it flowed well. Sure you can argue the old burst was just as easy but it at least punished harder for messing up unlike now how you can only mess up but using a physical GCD (except boring blade) during blades combo. Also at least the filler required a bit of thought of knowing when to drop the atonement and when to do your dot and if you do make a mistake, how to correct it. Now it's literally just 1-2-3-4-4-4 spam and that's not fun to me. PLD absolutely was not the worst DPS out of the tanks before, that was WAR and this is easily verifiable.

Yes and no, healers are complaining about the amount of downtime of pressing the same DPS button in contrast to the amount of time spent actively healing (which are mostly done instantaneously with oGCDS and without much thought required). Usually that leads to 2 points of discussion - add more DPS-oriented skills to keep engagement or add more damage to heal. Renathras is one of the few who oppose giving more DPS rotations to healers. This is a more recent thread if you want to see where that discussion is going.

[Lamarcy2699]

Yes and no, healers are complaining about the amount of downtime of pressing the same DPS button in contrast to the amount of time spent actively healing (which are mostly done instantaneously with oGCDS and without much thought required). Usually that leads to 2 points of discussion - add more DPS-oriented skills to keep engagement or add more damage to heal. Renathras is one of the few who oppose giving more DPS rotations to healers. This is a more recent thread if you want to see where that discussion is going.

I see, thank you for the clarification. I don't play much of a healer myself but as I said I have friends who do and that's just something to they say a lot so I naturally assumed it was the case. I can't exactly speak for healer mains on this one but the thread looks like an interesting read so I'll definitely check that out.