Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

[Zebraoracle]

If that's what it takes to qualify as a blog post then you must have really poor standards.

Gonna ignore what I said to you? You invalidate all prestige of this game by cheating in it. What do you think that does to the feel of the world? You are a selfish cheat.

The fact that you're just throwing out baseless accusations out is just hilarious. I sure do guess I cheated to get my TEA weapons (apparently a hrothgar hat mod is cheating guys).

[HikariKurosawa]

The fact that you're just throwing out baseless accusations out is just hilarious. I sure do guess I cheated to get my TEA weapons (apparently a hrothgar hat mod is cheating guys).

It's not about the accusations it's about what side you are standing on. I can assume as much about you if you are defending addons in this game. It doesn't matter either way, because they will probably just delete all ultimate weapons from the entire game when they introduce an anti-cheat. You will be able to get them again if you actually have the ability to do it. If not? Too bad so sad, cheaters ruined a good thing. It's not hard to undo their damage, just takes a bit of coding.

[Absimiliard]

just takes a bit of coding.

You are gravely underestimating the amount of work implementing any kind of anti-tamper would require. A significant number of client and engine changes would be required before they could even begin to approach that kind of addition.

[HikariKurosawa]

You are gravely underestimating the amount of work implementing any kind of anti-tamper would require. A significant number of client and engine changes would be required before they could even begin to approach that kind of addition.

I'm talking about wiping all pre-existing ultimate weapons. That's not hard to do at all. Just delete them and make people earn them again. The anti-cheat comes first, but solving the sabotaged world feel is a simple matter of deleting any existing ultimate weapon. Then prestige is restored. You people keep saying stuff like "why does it matter what anyone else does or how they got their loot?" because prestige depends on legitimacy.

[Absimiliard]

I'm talking about wiping all pre-existing ultimate weapons. That's not hard to do at all. Just delete them and make people earn them again. The anti-cheat comes first, but solving the sabotaged world feel is a simple matter of deleting any existing ultimate weapon. Then prestige is restored. You people keep saying stuff like "why does it matter what anyone else does or how they got their loot?" because prestige depends on legitimacy.

What you are doing here, essentially, is arbitrarily accusing every world first, and indeed every raider to have ever completed Ultimates, of "cheating" without having any way to prove it. Stripping away those weapons without proof is a surefire way to kill what few Ultimate teams there are out there. Besides, even if they are utilizing third-party tools, exactly how does this make their achievements unfair if darned near everyone else in the raiding community is also using or benefitting from them?

What you are failing to consider is that players rely on tools like ACT telling them their numbers so they can determine the correct way to play and gear their jobs. At present, endgame content is tuned in such a way that not having access to this information would in fact make it virtually, if not impossible to complete. Even players that do not themselves run ACT are almost always grouped with people that do, and thus they are able to see their numbers when they get uploaded to FFlogs. The theorycrafters that provide us with so much information about rotations and stat weights are also highly reliant on tools like ACT.

Additionally, I would note that all player data gathered by ACT is already available via combat log if you want to spend twelve years sorting it out and doing absurd amounts of math.

[HikariKurosawa]

What you are doing here, essentially, is arbitrarily accusing every world first, and indeed every raider to have ever completed Ultimates, of "cheating" without having any way to prove it. Stripping away those weapons without proof is a surefire way to kill what few Ultimate teams there are out there. Besides, even if they are utilizing third-party tools, exactly how does this make their achievements unfair if darned near everyone else in the raiding community is also using or benefitting from them?

What you are failing to consider is that players rely on tools like ACT telling them their numbers so they can determine the correct way to play and gear their jobs. At present, endgame content is tuned in such a way that not having access to this information would in fact make it virtually, if not impossible to complete. Even players that do not themselves run ACT are almost always grouped with people that do, and thus they are able to see their numbers when they get uploaded to FFlogs. The theorycrafters that provide us with so much information about rotations and stat weights are also highly reliant on tools like ACT.

Additionally, I would note that all player data gathered by ACT is already available via combat log if you want to spend twelve years sorting it out and doing absurd amounts of math.

No, I am offering a solution to a broken world feel. Cheaters ruined prestige for everyone. It no longer exists for those who earned it without cheating. They would be able to earn it back after cheats were disabled, the cheaters would not.

You're confused.

[Absimiliard]

There is no "broken world feel." The vast majority of people do not care about this one bit. A small minority is being overly vocal about it, but those same people (yourself included, from what I can tell) keep misrepresenting the facts when making their points.

Heck, even the JP player-base doesn't really care all that much about it, and they're normally the first ones out witch-hunting third-party tool users.

[HikariKurosawa]

There is no "broken world feel." The vast majority of people do not care about this one bit. A small minority is being overly vocal about it, but those same people (yourself included, from what I can tell) keep misrepresenting the facts when making their points.

There is though. You can pretend it's not valid because "you don't care", but it is what it is. Prestige doesn't exist in ffxiv. The developers intended for ultimate weapons to carry prestige. You destroy their intention by "not caring." Shame on you.

[Zebraoracle]

No, I am offering a solution to a broken world feel. Cheaters ruined prestige for everyone. It no longer exists for those who earned it without cheating. They would be able to earn it back after cheats were disabled, the cheaters would not.

You're confused.

I promise you this is an entirely made up problem that you came up with yourself. I don't give two flying craps about the prestige of clearing Ultimates, I did it for the fun of it and the feeling of accomplishment. If you care so much about "prestige", why the hell are you playing an MMO that is already looked down upon by a LARGE portion of the gaming community?

Your posts reek of "FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS" and I freaking hate using that phrase.

[Absimiliard]

Precisely. The people with the skill to get the job done simply do not care. The ones whining would never have been able to earn the weapons in the first place. The bloody things look awful anyway, with a handful of exceptions.