Is Square losing Money due to 3rd party tool usage?

[Larirawiel]

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The problem ist very different to "losing money". If you tolerate 3rd-party-tools then it could make some kinds of content unplayable for non-3rd-party-tools-users. Because it will start an arms race: the content is too easy with 3rd-party-tools, so they make it harder. The 3rd-party-tools will become better and make the harder content easier again. SQEX reacts to it with much harder content ...

And at this point, you will now have to use 3rd-party-tools or your static will kick you out. Because now the hardest content could be impossible to do without them.

So i can understand why SQEX does not permit 3rd-party-tools.


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[Saraide]

The problem ist very different to "losing money". If you tolerate 3rd-party-tools then it could make some kinds of content unplayable for non-3rd-party-tools-users. Because it will start an arms race: the content is too easy with 3rd-party-tools, so they make it harder. The 3rd-party-tools will become better and make the harder content easier again. SQEX reacts to it with much harder content ...

And at this point, you will now have to use 3rd-party-tools or your static will kick you out. Because now the hardest content could be impossible to do without them.

So i can understand why SQEX does not permit 3rd-party-tools.


Cheers

You act like the people who want more difficult content are the same people as those who cheat in current high end content. This game's community is not a monolith.

[CelestiCer]

If you tolerate 3rd-party-tools then it could make some kinds of content unplayable for non-3rd-party-tools-users. Because it will start an arms race

If Square's toleration is limitless
Topic of the thread is about third party tools, of which 95% of it are all Non-Combat. You're only addressing 5% of the Raiding tools. Not all Raiders are cheaters nor want to depend on all Third-party tools to force Square to make infinitely more difficult content. They know however what improves the Raiding experience.

Square knows these third party tools exist, but how many more subscribers is Square really going to reel in with implementing all these improvements themselves rather then letting the player base do it for free? At least if Square done it all themselves? they truly set the bar on what is approved by Square. Improving the Gaming experience where they could meet the players desires in the middle while denying everything they do not want.

Instead we have a mutual silent agreement
Square knows developing everything themselves costs more resources then letting players do it themselves, and players silently love this freedom. It all goes back to YoshiP's statement

" We cannot see what's on your computer " ~ YoshiP

That is all the modding community needed to hear to do whatever they want.. as long as its hush-hush and not advertised. Yet Square and the community act surprised when something happens with Zero Policing. Because they have no way of scanning what players use. Thus players will continue to do what isn't allowed both Non-Raiding and Raiding tools. Even their own Japanese community themselves this time for Omega Ultimate. The community that is the most against these those tools.

And silently? this is what players want.
All this limitless freedom. We all know it. N one wants to give up 100 hairlines for every race that they can't have in default FFXIV or limitless Fantasia without spending a dime. Square and the player-base just won't acknowledge nor admit this. They'd rather blame a smaller part of the player-base that are quite resilient due to the gameplay they throw themselves into. The Raiders. They are used to being treated like crap with poor job changes and job balancing. Being stigmatized is just another Tuesday for them so why not blame everything on them?

I was just curious what players thoughts were regarding if Square is losing out on money. And I don't think they are? They might be missing out on an opportunity of some sort though to improve FFXIV while it being on Square's terms on what is allowed and what isn't... rather then what we have right now which is complete freedom as long as you do not tell what you use? and then be surprised overtime someone uses something that isn't allowed, but players continue to do it all because they can.

[Larirawiel]

If Square's toleration is limitless
Topic of the thread is about third party tools, of which 95% of it are all Non-Combat. You're only addressing 5% of the Raiding tools. Not all Raiders are cheaters nor want to depend on all Third-party tools to force Square to make infinitely more difficult content. They know however what improves the Raiding experience.

Umm ... yes. Because i have more a software developer perspective on this topic. And technically there are no differences between combat- and non-combat 3rd-party-tools. Both 3rd-party-tools pull some data out of the client and maybe inject other data into it. And that is the problem. The game client cannot distinguish between them. And SQEX has made the decision, that using 3rd-party-tools is technically possible.

On one hand they save some money. Because if the modders do the modding work then they do not have to do it. But on the other hand, they have to live with some impacts, the combat 3rd-party-tools create.





Cheers