Can we have an official response on the RMT sub FC farms?

[Sindele]

I wasn't using their example as an accusation. See above.

Apologies, didn't mean to imply you were.

[kevin_satron]

damn bro, lmao

[PaalHenrik]

Still waiting on that evidence of "treating wards like crypto farms"...found it yet, buddy?

No no, he was creating The Society to Prevent the Abuse of Submersibles. TSPAS.

[CatStarwind]

Still waiting on that evidence of "treating wards like crypto farms"...found it yet, buddy?

Just take the time to peruse all the wards in any world and you'll eventually find one with the majority being owned by a single set of shell FCs, with each shell FC only having a single member on average.

Just please do not post any images of ward listing as that is construed as targeting. Remember, this is about what the game allows mechanically and how those mechanics are abused to the detriment of the community.

[PintyMcEars]

Just take the time to peruse all the wards in any world and you'll eventually find one with the majority being owned by a single set of shell FCs, with each shell FC only having a single member on average.

Just please do not post any images of ward listing as that is construed as targeting. Remember, this is about what the game allows mechanically and how those mechanics are abused to the detriment of the community.

And that has what to do with RMT?

[PaalHenrik]

Just take the time to peruse all the wards in any world and you'll eventually find one with the majority being owned by a single set of shell FCs, with each shell FC only having a single member on average.

Just please do not post any images of ward listing as that is construed as targeting. Remember, this is about what the game allows mechanically and how those mechanics are abused to the detriment of the community.

Didn't you do that? Posted a bunch of screenshots of these supposed sub farms? No? Right, you just piggybacked off of someone else's post in a previous thread from their thread where they did that. So this is thread nr 3 on the witchhunt with no proof of RMT or was it crypto farming or bragging rights?

[Stormpeaks]

Just take the time to peruse all the wards in any world and you'll eventually find one with the majority being owned by a single set of shell FCs, with each shell FC only having a single member on average.

Just please do not post any images of ward listing as that is construed as targeting. Remember, this is about what the game allows mechanically and how those mechanics are abused to the detriment of the community.

Translation :

Waaaaaaaaaaaah people got more houses than me waaaaaah

[ZiraZ]

Translation :

Waaaaaaaaaaaah people got more houses than me waaaaaah

"are we the baddies?"

[CatStarwind]

Posted a bunch of screenshots of these supposed sub farms?

As far as I recall, and even in this very thread, folks have self-admitted to running multi-FC sub farms. This despite this thread neither being about any individual player nor about regular submarining. For some reason those who abuse this system seem extra eager to both gloat about their exploits and play victim to the consequences of the former.

Waaaaaaaaaaaah people got more houses than me waaaaaah

Charming. For what it's worth I already have the houses I want and need, one for myself and one for my FC. So let's talk about that, because I feel it clearly illustrates the warped sense of reality here.

How about we start with Free Company:

"Free companies are adventurer-run organizations which allow their members to pool resources, be it items or gil, to accomplish feats that would be difficult or impossible for a single individual."

It's really interesting the amount of plurality in that definition. Given this is the official definition of an FC, how do you feel about those single member FCs? Those "shell" FCs? Do you really think that's intended?

How about having a multiple characters on the same World, on the same service account, purchasing plots? Do you think that's officially allowed? What do the requirements say?

"You do not have a character on the same World on the same service account that purchased and maintains a free company plot"

"You may only purchase and maintain one private plot and one free company plot per World per service account."

Fascinating isn't it? It's like the intended gameplay is to only have one house, a second if you run an FC. Having any more is quite literally, by the above, an abuse of the system; almost like you'd need an entire flowchart to exploit the one flag controlling this. It's essentially cheating, not least of which due to the use third-party plug-ins required to manage such a racket. The only people who are truly afraid and angry about losing out on plots aren't regular players, it's those who wish to take part of this exploit. Oh but don't worry, at least everyone pinky promises to never ever RMT regardless of how big their "subempire" gets.

But why even subject yourself to such a charade? To hit gil cap? To spout nonsense about how "arduous" this type of cheating is? Excuses that even the static that cheated at World's First made. All that tedium and time spent cheating just to turn entire wards into ghost towns for the illusion of "challenge" isn't impressive, it's just sad.

[PaalHenrik]

As far as I recall, and even in this very thread, folks have self-admitted to running multi-FC sub farms. This despite this thread neither being about any individual player nor about regular submarining. For some reason those who abuse this system seem extra eager to both gloat about their exploits and play victim to the consequences of the former.



Charming. For what it's worth I already have the houses I want and need, one for myself and one for my FC. So let's talk about that, because I feel it clearly illustrates the warped sense of reality here.

How about we start with Free Company:

It's really interesting the amount of plurality in that definition. Given this is the official definition of an FC, how do you feel about those single member FCs? Those "shell" FCs? Do you really think that's intended?

How about having a multiple characters on the same World, on the same service account, purchasing plots? Do you think that's officially allowed? What do the requirements say?


Fascinating isn't it? It's like the intended gameplay is to only have one house, a second if you run an FC. Having any more is quite literally, by the above, an abuse of the system; almost like you'd need an entire flowchart to exploit the one flag controlling this. It's essentially cheating, not least of which due to the use third-party plug-ins required to manage such a racket. The only people who are truly afraid and angry about losing out on plots aren't regular players, it's those who wish to take part of this exploit. Oh but don't worry, at least everyone pinky promises to never ever RMT regardless of how big their "subempire" gets.

But why even subject yourself to such a charade? To hit gil cap? To spout nonsense about how "arduous" this type of cheating is? Excuses that even the static that cheated at World's First made. All that tedium and time spent cheating just to turn entire wards into ghost towns for the illusion of "challenge" isn't impressive, it's just sad.

Some people admitted to having multiple houses, no where does it say they are RMTing which is the basis for your silly witchhunt thread.