Building a Better Gaming Community: The Advantages of a Console-Only Final Fantasy XI

[Stormpeaks]

Building a better gaming community: Get rid of ultimates, WF twitch streams, and just get back to having a chill time playing a game.

Yeah let's all just afk in Limsa and do absolutely boring roulettes that have no challenge what so ever, why else would anyone want some sort of challenging content right ? /s

[solimiano]

Yeah let's all just afk in Limsa and do absolutely boring roulettes that have no challenge what so ever, why else would anyone want some sort of challenging content right ? /s

Go do diadem, crafting, gathering, deep dungeons, gold saucer, old or current relics.
Or just unsub and go play Crisis Core reunion, or the new Theatrhythm coming out on the 16th of February.
You don't need addons to play the game, if that means getting rid of ultimate so be it.

[PikoAliapoh]

Yeah let's all just afk in Limsa and do absolutely boring roulettes that have no challenge what so ever, why else would anyone want some sort of challenging content right ? /s

OH SNAP! You're totally right! If you're not doing an ultimate raid, the only other thing to do in this game is AFK in Limsa. Nothing else is a challenge in this game besides an ultimate raid.

You've completely changed my mind. Forget everything I've said.\

Next time you're in game, can you show me your Wivre mount, Pteranodon mount, aquariums full of legendary fish you've caught, and resplendent crafter tools? I mean, they're no challenge at all, I'm sure you've got them since the only thing left for you to do is AFK in Limsa.

[Stormpeaks]

OH SNAP! You're totally right! If you're not doing an ultimate raid, the only other thing to do in this game is AFK in Limsa. Nothing else is a challenge in this game besides an ultimate raid.

You've completely changed my mind. Forget everything I've said.\

Next time you're in game, can you show me your Wivre mount, Pteranodon mount, aquariums full of legendary fish you've caught, and resplendent crafter tools? I mean, they're no challenge at all, I'm sure you've got them since the only thing left for you to do is AFK in Limsa.

Really ? Are you going to compare fishing to doing ultimates ? Lmao

[PikoAliapoh]

Really ? Are you going to compare fishing to doing ultimates ? Lmao

Your ignorance is blinding.

[solimiano]

Really ? Are you going to compare fishing to doing ultimates ? Lmao

I honestly think you should google what the pteranodon and wivre mount requirements and rarity are, besides the mounts you have to pay 30/50 million gil they are the rarest...
And you don't need cheats to get them..

[Nezerius]

I honestly think you should google what the pteranodon and wivre mount requirements and rarity are, besides the mounts you have to pay 30/50 million gil they are the rarest...
And you don't need cheats to get them..

You're mistaking "difficulty" with "dedication to finishing a mindless grind", because that entirely sums up the requirement to obtain the Pteranodon mount. You'll spend about 176-200 hours farming materials in the Diadem to get the amount of points required for the DoL part, which gets you more than enough materials to craft enough G4 Artisanal items for the DoH part. Current melded DoH gear even allows you to 100% macro these expert recipes.

This doesn't mean the Pteranodon mount is anything to scoff at, as a grind like that isn't for everyone. I just wouldn't describe it as "difficult".

Oh, and the Wivre can be bought at roughly 32.5 mil (~65k per bicolor gemstone voucher).

[PikoAliapoh]

You're mistaking "difficulty" with "dedication to finishing a mindless grind".

And you're mistaking "dedication to finishing a mindless grind" with "easy."

People on my server had to log 13+ hrs a day during firmament rankings to get the Saint title. Don't tell me that isn't difficult to do.


And while we're at it... don't tell me ultimate titles/weapons can't be bought either. I'm glad SE cracked down on the ads in PF for it. But let's not pretend there hasn't been a problem with that.

[Nezerius]

And you're mistaking "dedication to finishing a mindless grind" with "easy."

People on my server had to log 13+ hrs a day during firmament rankings to get the Saint title. Don't tell me that isn't difficult to do.


And while we're at it... don't tell me ultimate titles/weapons can't be bought either. I'm glad SE cracked down on the ads in PF for it. But let's not pretend there hasn't been a problem with that.

You missed this part of what I wrote, my goal-post moving friend: "This doesn't mean the Pteranodon mount is anything to scoff at, as a grind like that isn't for everyone. I just wouldn't describe it as "difficult"."
Nowhere in my post do I mention it being "easy", because that would imply that there's a difficulty range to the grind in the first place. The Pteranodon grind is a simple case of "put in enough time gathering/macro crafting to succeed".

Anyone macro crafting expert recipes for the Saint title was probably going about it in a questionable way, because they definitely weren't hitting anything but minimal collectability for turn ins. Also comparing RMT-riddled content sales (Ultimates) to tokens that can be bought off the market board (bicolored gemstone vouchers/Wivre) is hilarious.