Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

[Atelier-Bagur]

Imagine living such a life that you go on a crusade against people using mods in a video game, trying to defend the "integrity" of the game despite the developer of the game telling us he doesn't want people witch hunting mod users, asserting your own arrogant point of view as superior to that of the head dev of the game.

Its just snitches wanting to be snitches. Unless you get harrassed for not having addons in a party, people really shouldnt be "policing" it, unless that person or group of persons are actively being toxic about it.

Let themselves get caught over their own use

[Axxion]

Imagine living such a life that you go on a crusade against people using mods in a video game, trying to defend the "integrity" of the game despite the developer of the game telling us he doesn't want people witch hunting mod users, asserting your own arrogant point of view as superior to that of the head dev of the game.

[Saraide]

But untill they implement those tools your nothing more than a cheater, you admitted on the official forums you are using third party tools, you broke the tos, your account should be terminated period.
Don't care if you only use it to improve yourself, to get better graphics, because you're colour blind or have disabilities,none of that matters, there's no grey area, there's no use and be quiet about it. All addons are forbidden unless stated otherwise by the developer of the game on the latest statement, not the statement made 5 years ago, the latest one. You and anyone using any kind of add-on are breaking the rules and can be banned at any point for breaking tos.
You want to try your luck and use mods, at least keep your mouth shut, and pray you don't get banned.
I honestly to think there's 2 ways to go forward, either make all mods official and part of the main game or start banning everyone that is using them, if they need to shut the game every day for maintenance to upgrade their mod detection so be it, I'll still pay for my subscription as long as there are no third party add-ons. Either it's official and part of the game or burn it all down.

I'm glad you know so much more than the people running this game on this topic.

[Larirawiel]

Then make it official, no complain after that, oh wait what about all the cheaters using position mods, aoe's, zoom, etc.
Yeah, third party mods/ addons are forbidden and against tos until implemented as part of the main game.

AFAIR they will implement some of the things, that are now only available as a mod.

And i am active in many discords. And most mods, i have seen on screenshots are different hairstyles, clothes, faces, eyes, tatoos and ... ummm ... propotions. Ohh, and there are also some housing mods. Because the official housing UI seems to be very limited.

And the question is, when there is such a huge demand for it, why they do not build those things directly into the game?

And the answer is simple: because there are mods for it. And as long as there are mods, they do not have to do it and it saves their money. That is the reason why they are not after the mods really seriously. They ban the people only if the players cheated and there is an evidence for it on a video.



Cheers

[Zebraoracle]

LMAO wow talk about cringe. And it seems that twitter account got taken down so that's hilarious. That's a targeted harassment report waiting to happen LOL

[Saraide]

0 followers? Damn. I knew people like that were insanely sad and lonely but that's even less than I thought. Should rebrand to "ModHunter", the plural form really feels out of place there tbh.

[ForteNightshade]

Because people are actively jerks about it and will always be? I am demanding you follow the ToS. It's not about my approval, it's about following the terms of service you legally agreed to when you signed up to play this game. People like you ruin the game for people like me.

On top of that, savage content is the most appealing RPG fantasy for me that exists in this game. Because of the state of addons being normalized, I am not going to fit in in that scene. For what reason? Because you're bad at mechanics and can't do things without cheating.

How does an overlay on someone's screen which calculates numbers become cheating? You can't dislike parsers all you fancy but there isn't even an argument they are anywhere close to cheating. It does nothing except calculations of your DPS. Now you can use ACT for other things but that's a whole different discussion. At a base level, it has quite literally nothing to do with being "bad at mechanics" because a parser has zero impact.

But let's go a step further. Say I or anyone in this thread is using triggers or Cactbot just for the sake of argument. How does it ruin the game for you if you aren't made aware of it while playing said game? Nobody is demanding these things become the norm or really cares what you're using provided you can do the content you've signed up for. My hypothetical hair mod isn't going to make Carbuncle stare longingly and give me a buff nor will it break any of your aesthetics. I'll look exactly the same as everyone else and you'll be none the wiser. If that does, genuinely, "ruin the game" for you then it's entirely a self inflicted problem. I don't dare how you play the game. So why care what I or anyone else does?

The end result should be the same, account terminated.

I'mma let you in on a little secret. If SE actually did this they'd effectively ban nearly their entire raid and roleplay communities which both number in the well over 100,000. I shouldn't have to highlight just how much money they'd be losing monthly . Hence why they'll never take such a draconian action of just outright banning people who have some sort of addon installed.

[ValkyrieL]

My experience playing Lost Ark....is that anti-cheat don't work, there is AWAYS a work around, cat/mouse game. Ends up hurting the average player more.

[Mcg55ss]

My experience playing Lost Ark....is that anti-cheat don't work, there is AWAYS a work around, cat/mouse game. Ends up hurting the average player more.

it has varying success but its a arms race, eventually hackers get in and make mods then they gotta update anticheat for mods then they hack it again...the endless cycle of there will be addons for a bit then not.

[Midareyukki]

But untill they implement those tools your nothing more than a cheater, you admitted on the official forums you are using third party tools, you broke the tos, your account should be terminated period.
Don't care if you only use it to improve yourself, to get better graphics, because you're colour blind or have disabilities,none of that matters, there's no grey area, there's no use and be quiet about it. All addons are forbidden unless stated otherwise by the developer of the game on the latest statement, not the statement made 5 years ago, the latest one. You and anyone using any kind of add-on are breaking the rules and can be banned at any point for breaking tos.
You want to try your luck and use mods, at least keep your mouth shut, and pray you don't get banned.
I honestly to think there's 2 ways to go forward, either make all mods official and part of the main game or start banning everyone that is using them, if they need to shut the game every day for maintenance to upgrade their mod detection so be it, I'll still pay for my subscription as long as there are no third party add-ons. Either it's official and part of the game or burn it all down.

...Hmm... then I need some clarification. Not just from you, but from other people who know better. Preferrably a moderator with knowledge on this.

First, I'd like to clarify something myself. I hope you're not expecting Reshade/Gshade. I don't use them because my PC kinda doesn't like it. Last time I used ReShade, it was on Skyrim. SKYRIM of all things, that game's older than gay marriage has been legal in the UK. And the fan started screaming at me. So I doubt my PC would agree with those things being on at all on an MMO. So I don't have it installed, be it on FF14, GW2, PSO2 or whichever other MMO.

The ones I use are in my NVidia card :x They're no different than me tweaking the settings of my monitor. Is Square disallowing me changing my graphic card's settings or my monitor's settings so I can tell hues apart? Because I don't think they can implement a program to scan for addons and block the graphics card. If they do, the graphics card won't work, and thus the game won't render. I doubt it'd even load. Nvidia shaders aren't a third party tool necessarily. They are third-party, but they are just as much as my CPU or monitor are. I kinda can't play without it???

I admitted I use shaders, yes... Nvidia shaders. Because, as I've explained before, changing the saturation down on things like FF14's colourblind mode does is insufficient. I need something to help me tell some stuff apart. And even then, it doesn't give me any upper edge in any case, because even with that on, P3S was a disaster. I can't tell orange apart from orange, some stuff is too faint for me to tell. It's not making stuff brighter or darker that's going to make a change on it, because it's all orange. I'd need a better indicator altogether, and I can't get that unless SE actually goes into the fight and changes how the indicators are displayed. All that I do with my shaders is just change how certain values are rendered so I can tell them apart, making dark stuff darker and bright stuff brighter.

See, this is one of the cases where I wish a mod could step in to clarify, if possible. Because I don't know whether I'm doing wrong or not. For me, this is no different than me changing the brightness setting on my monitor. But illegality isn't up to me, and I'm sorry but not you either, to decide. It's up to Square. And right now, I don't know where Nvidia stands, so I'm not even certain if what I'm using is illegal or not. If it happens to be, then I'd like to be properly informed of it so that, yes, I do stop using it.