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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Yeah, I think a lot of people have this naive idea that every problem can be solve by the wave of a magic wand. And thing will always pan out exactly as planed. All I can say is ... real life is not a shonen manga.

    It's the same thing about people keep advocating for stripping people with multiple-house. Say even if Yoshi actually want to do that, I can imagine someone from either the financial or legal department (probably both) would be stopping him so freaking fast.
    Have you actually sat down and read the T&C's or most commonly know as TOS, and I mean actually reading them and not just glancing or skimming them?
    They can do whatever the hell they want, we have no rights here.
    We have the privilege of them storing some data on their servers we can access and we pay for that.
    At any point in time they can terminate the agreement from their end without warning or excuses.
    The only excuse for the financial of legal department to get involved would be the shareholders making a fuss or even a lawsuit for loss of profits.
    Us the players have no rights whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solimiano View Post
    They can do whatever the hell they want, we have no rights here.
    We have the privilege of them storing some data on their servers we can access and we pay for that.
    At any point in time they can terminate the agreement from their end without warning or excuses.
    And my friend, this attitude is exactly what I called naive like a shonen manga.


    The only excuse for the financial of legal department to get involved would be the shareholders making a fuss or even a lawsuit for loss of profits.
    Us the players have no rights whatsoever.
    OH so you DO get it. What do you think I was referring to? The TOS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    And my friend, this attitude is exactly what I called naive like a shonen manga.




    OH so you DO get it.
    Just because I need something to help pass the time while I'm farming on diadem, doesn't mean I don't get the gist of the conversation
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    Quote Originally Posted by solimiano View Post
    Just because I need something to help pass the time while I'm farming on diadem, doesn't mean I don't get the gist of the conversation
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    Quote Originally Posted by solimiano View Post
    Have you actually sat down and read the T&C's or most commonly know as TOS, and I mean actually reading them and not just glancing or skimming them?
    They can do whatever the hell they want, we have no rights here.
    We have the privilege of them storing some data on their servers we can access and we pay for that.
    At any point in time they can terminate the agreement from their end without warning or excuses.
    The only excuse for the financial of legal department to get involved would be the shareholders making a fuss or even a lawsuit for loss of profits.
    Us the players have no rights whatsoever.
    Judging from your World choice, I assume you are from Europe. If you only read the NA one, you'd be surprised how much more favorable the European agreement is towards the player than the North American version is. For example, the bolded part is not true in the European version, because we Europeans actually have consumer rights, a service you have paid for can't just be terminated for no reason. If they want to stop providing the game to you, they must either show cause (you breached the TOS) or give advance notice and in the latter case, they'd have to refund you for the missed days. Chances are, they'd just refuse to take your subsequent payments if they wanted you out for other reasons than a TOS breach and eventually your sub runs out, which you can't renew.

    Chances are their "we can terminate you at any time for any reason for no compensation" in the NA agreement is also simply untested and would not survive a judge's scrutiny for being unreasonable, but IANAL.
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    Last edited by Sove92; 02-04-2023 at 06:47 AM.