I can only acknowledge world first clears on PS4-5 and so on.

[solimiano]

Nobody tell the OP a lot of the console raiders are using third-party tools too.

I keep asking for explanations on this, and so far noone can explain it, piggybacking our of pc players is not using mods on consoles, explain how are you or anyone bypassing Sony's protections and using your own code on the ps5.

[Jybril]

I keep asking for explanations on this, and so far noone can explain it, piggybacking our of pc players is not using mods on consoles, explain how are you or anyone bypassing Sony's protections and using your own code on the ps5.

Offtopic.
What DC is Phantom from?

[Midareyukki]

Offtopic.
What DC is Phantom from?

Chaos, an EU Datacenter.

[Sove92]

I keep asking for explanations on this, and so far noone can explain it, piggybacking our of pc players is not using mods on consoles, explain how are you or anyone bypassing Sony's protections and using your own code on the ps5.

You can route your console's web traffic through a PC, basically your PC acts as a router. The router obviously sees every packet going through it and can snoop around and that's where the parser comes in. I am massively simplifying so ppl don't get naughty ideas (and possibly also break their network), but if there was a reason for this to become mainstream, it wouldn't take long before step by step guides start popping up, including a parse program specifically for this purpose.

And no, Sony can't do anything about it, you are not running your own code on the system. It's also not possible for the system to tell if the router you are connecting to is just a PC pretending to be a router (technically speaking, routers are just stripped down computers with the necessary components and software to forward data packets, they often run an embedded linux system). An anticheat on PC also couldn't do anything about this, since you can do the same on PC as well.

[SlouchyBard]

I just do dis.

[solimiano]

You can route your console's web traffic through a PC, basically your PC acts as a router. The router obviously sees every packet going through it and can snoop around and that's where the parser comes in. I am massively simplifying so ppl don't get naughty ideas (and possibly also break their network), but if there was a reason for this to become mainstream, it wouldn't take long before step by step guides start popping up.

And no, Sony can't do anything about it, you are not running your own code on the system. It's also not possible for the system to tell if the router you are connecting to is just a PC pretending to be a router. An anticheat on PC also couldn't do anything about this, since you can do the same on PC as well.

It defeats the purpose of playing on a console, I need to use a pc, might as well ditch the ps5 and just play on the pc... The point is to turn on my PS5 and tv and just play the game.
Now if you turn all of those add-ons into something available from within the game and published by square all is fine and perfect until then your are breaking the TOS.
In this case anyone on console using addons is even worse than pc master race since they have to use a third device to be able to use mods...

[solimiano]

I just do dis.

You're PS5 seems a lot like my ps4... Lol
PS4 is jailbroken on lower firmwares, don't know (and honestly don't care) if you can connect to PSN and play FFXIV with mods on it, maybe you can, shame that PSN doesn't ban you

[SlouchyBard]

I would imagine it would look like a ps4 since it is a ps4.

[Raven2014]

I think if people are being mostly harmless, developers are better off just leaving them be. In tera's case, and in XIV's case, the lead developers of these tools generally give a shit about the long term health of the game and ban cheatier stuff from their platform or at least force users to take extra steps if they want to use the more controversial stuff. In tera's case as well, the devs reached out to the official developers and offered assistance with the game's latency/QoL issues and were quite literally permabanned from the game lmao. Like, I think if you fuck with people who are mostly passionate about your game and just want to help make it better, you're shooting yourself in the foot for no reason. "Spot-ban the idiots but leave everyone else alone" is probably the wisest course of action they can take short of just collaborating with these people so we can all get the "people with high ping can double weave" QoL among others.

Yeah, I think a lot of people have this naive idea that every problem can be solve by the wave of a magic wand. And thing will always pan out exactly as planed. All I can say is ... real life is not a shonen manga.

It's the same thing about people keep advocating for stripping people with multiple-house. Say even if Yoshi actually want to do that, I can imagine someone from either the financial or legal department (probably both) would be stopping him so freaking fast.

[Sove92]

It defeats the purpose of playing on a console, I need to use a pc, might as well ditch the ps5 and just play on the pc... The point is to turn on my PS5 and tv and just play the game.
Now if you turn all of those add-ons into something available from within the game and published by square all is fine and perfect until then your are breaking the TOS.
In this case anyone on console using addons is even worse than pc master race since they have to use a third device to be able to use mods...

I already mentioned in the first page that this is in the "why bother" territory right now. But if that was to change, because for example, someone came up with a console only world race with the idea that it means no 3rd party programs, that idea is simply naive, because you could still parse and use triggers.

You also don't need a particularly powerful PC to do this. Some cheap laptop that can't even run the game could do the trick just fine. So no, it doesn't really completely defeat the purpose.