Does the average XIV player know how to play their jobs?

[RitsukoSonoda]

My paint skills are elementary. However the average is green/blue IMO

But... I don't have a color on there... I mess around not giving a shit making ppl wonder how I didn't get hit by some things. To which I reply. "I'm a Cat. If I fits I sits" >.>

I may also sometimes chase the healer for a hug while playing a tank job while an AoE tankbuster marker is on me... :P

[RobynDaBank]

We are almost at Level 100 and the content is roughly as difficult as Level 50. One hundred levels of tutorial. People don't get better unless they have a reason to.

IDK man, CT and Euphrosyne for example aren't comparable at all.

[DixieBellOCE]

No they do not, most play FFXIV for the social aspect and treat this like second life.

I would love for the devs to "enforce" better playstyles but only way I can see that happening is making normal content harder which doesn't work and just promotes leeching (Which we already have now) or players just outright dropping certain content.

I do love the first dungeon of Endwalker, the amount of times i saw it early on in the expansion, where groups just could not get past the first bosses mechanics without dying 3-4 times.

My expectations for Endwalker dropped back down to disappointed when i realized every other dungeon after that could be cleared blindfolded, playing with my feet.

The game really is dumbed down to the point where anything below Extreme (And even some extremes, the new one as a perfect example) are designed for a player base that don't want to have to 'learn'.

[Troxbark]

Just a question that came up today.

With all the talk of Addons/Parsers, somebody today asked what my thoughts were on the average casual player actually knowing how to play their job correctly.

Immediately i said no, the average player most likely does not realize that they are holding back groups by playing badly.

This is just based on experience in Dungeons/PF, but some people are completely clueless when it comes to actually PLAYING the game..

This bought up a second question: What can the game do, to TEACH people to play properly.

Should the game teach people about Melding Gear, Rotations, Openers and other things that will help them in the Endgame?

Any thoughts?

Yes and it starts by introducing required content that doesn't allow you remove half the abilities off your hotbar and still get a clear so smooth it could put you to sleep.

[drtasteyummy]

They don't for many reason:

1. They just don't give a duck, the people that visit the forum and the high end gamer are not your daily FFXIV player.
2. The rotations are not intuitive most people press what makes sense to them, the average player doesn't look up the proper rotations.
3. The 120s rotation circle is easily wrecked and average player doesn't care about it.

I've stated it in many threads before but I think that the FFXIV rotation system is one of the worst I've come across.
It's very elitist designed and boringly static.

IMO the whole rotation concept needs to be reworked for FFXIV.

[Zeastria]

I'm average (casual) player. because i have limited playtime..and there is only so much you can do..(fulltime student)
I only do dalies and pvp..and do nrm difficulity content.. which most say is super easy..ect
But...when you're mentally burned out from job/school/uni..that easy content is all you can do at the end of the day!..

[Renalt]

But... I don't have a color on there... I mess around not giving a shit making ppl wonder how I didn't get hit by some things. To which I reply. "I'm a Cat. If I fits I sits" >.>

I may also sometimes chase the healer for a hug while playing a tank job while an AoE tankbuster marker is on me... :P

Haha ok I'm about to go to sleep but I'll make a new one just for you tomorrow.

[Jeeqbit]

I do love the first dungeon of Endwalker, the amount of times i saw it early on in the expansion, where groups just could not get past the first bosses mechanics without dying 3-4 times.

My expectations for Endwalker dropped back down to disappointed when i realized every other dungeon after that could be cleared blindfolded, playing with my feet.

It seems that they make the leveling dungeons and the last dungeon of the core expansion as challenging as you described there, then after that they just can't even if they wanted to because of item level.

Even when you go through older leveling dungeons, you can see how they aren't done blindfolded. You do have to actually heal enough at the end of Bardam's Mettle, the 2nd fight is a pure mechanics fight and if everyone let it all hit them they would fail and the pulls can still be rough sometimes. The last dungeon of 5.0 has a first boss fight that I have seen many wipes to, to the point I've been left soloing it as a tank or carrying them as a healer.

To be fair, the latest dungeon does give you Doom if you get hit in the second boss fight and if you are too distracted with a rotation to watch where the safe spots are, it will usually get you. The first one has some marching that can get you if you are tunneling and the last boss does an awful lot of dashing that is easy to confuse people. It's at least an improvement over the last dungeon, where the only thing remotely threatening was a Gaze that gave you Doom for being greedy. The only thing remotely threatening in the dungeon before that was if you didn't understand the lasers or tunneled on them.

[Floortank]

No they don't. The game does not at all explain any of the nuances of GCD/OGCD and without understanding it you can maybe play healer correctly but everything else you're being carried.

[Xuled]

No. They don’t.