Option to privatize or opt-out of lodestone displaying character. Show your support!

[NanaWiloh]

I have no horse in this race no dog in this fight no chicken in this pen. But anything that could help make it harder for players to find and harrass others I support.

[NanaWiloh]

We need an option to completely hide our Character on its lodestone URL, so if someone navigated to say /YourCharactersIDHere/ (the characters unique ID number) the page would not show anything at all, just a message (This Character cannot be viewed). The same would apply to a name search, say Kitty Cat on Seraph, it should only show the name in text form with a message saying (This Character cannot be viewed).

One more incredibly important thing we need is, when YOU remove someone from YOUR friend list, YOU must be removed from THEIR friend list, this needs asap attention, and it needs to also affect the lodestone, YOU need to be removed on any NON friend, friend list on lodestone, so there is NO possible way to stalk someone.

Yoshi P for some odd reason god knows why. Thinks that peoples feelings will be hurt if you are removed from their friends list when you remove them from yours. *shrugs* Goes without saying if you remove somone from your friends list, your likely not concerned about their feelings.

[Zomkei]

Here's a link: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ch_option_qol/
I don't know when this feature is coming exactly.

thank you!

[SassyAssassin]

Yoshi P for some odd reason god knows why. Thinks that peoples feelings will be hurt if you are removed from their friends list when you remove them from yours. *shrugs* Goes without saying if you remove somone from your friends list, your likely not concerned about their feelings.

I think that was a failed way to attempt keeping people conflict free, so to not deal with the entire conversation of “why did you delete me” and instead to just fade someone out without them having any idea you are doing so.

[Feronar]

There needs to be a privacy option to restrict who can view your Lodestone page:

• Public
• Friends, Free Company, and Linkshells
• Friends and Free Company
• Friends
• Private

If you attempt to view a restricted Lodestone profile, an error will say that either no such character exists or the character's Lodestone profile is restricted by privacy settings. It wouldn't specify which. There is already the option to restrict your online status, achievements, friends list, and followers list. That should be expanded to restrict the entire Lodestone profile page.

They also need to make it so if you block another player, you are automatically removed from their friends list and cannot be added back unless you unblock them.

They also need to make it so Lonestone profiles can no longer be accessed with the character's ID number. You can only access it if you know the name and realm of the character, like in WoW.

Given that there have been instances of stalking and harassment in the past, and such a blatant tool exists to facilitate it, I wouldn't be surprised if SE gets sued over it.

[Zfz]

Is stalking really all that common or is it just blown up when it happens to seem like a bigger issue than it really is?

It shouldn't matter whether it's blown up or not, because at what point is a problem not worth attention? When it affects less then 50% of people? Less than 10%? Less than 5%? Or less than 0.1%?

About 3% of men in the US have experienced attempted or completed rape. Is rape of men a bigger issue than it really is?

It shouldn't matter, because it's simply wrong and the goal should be that nobody gets raped. Same for stalking. It shouldn't matter how big of a problem stalking in FFXIV really is, it should simply be made harder to do. At least it shouldn't be so easy and absolutely trivial to stalk a character until the character is deleted.

[IkaraGreydancer]

It shouldn't matter whether it's blown up or not, because at what point is a problem not worth attention? When it affects less then 50% of people? Less than 10%? Less than 5%? Or less than 0.1%?

About 3% of men in the US have experienced attempted or completed rape. Is rape of men a bigger issue than it really is?

It shouldn't matter, because it's simply wrong and the goal should be that nobody gets raped. Same for stalking. It shouldn't matter how big of a problem stalking in FFXIV really is, it should simply be made harder to do. At least it shouldn't be so easy and absolutely trivial to stalk a character until the character is deleted.

Sorry but using rape to make a point about something far smaller is off on many levels. Virtual stalking is in NO way comparable and I'd kindly ask you not to compare them.

Second how much it effects does in fact matter in the context of a game. Harassment doesn't effect everyone and as such they haven't regulated regular game chat to what chat is in pvp. This isn't an argument against a change btw, just this specific point

[Brandt_Nunh]

I'm on board with this. Had someone checking up on all my characters FCs and all the members in it, only then to send me a message warning me about a friend they used to RP with. They doxxed my friend (only to me, but who knows who else got told this information) and did not/would not understand when I tried to explain how messed up that was.

They then proceeded to roll alts and find my alts via the lodestone and try to trap me.

[Senn]

Second how much it effects does in fact matter in the context of a game. Harassment doesn't effect everyone and as such they haven't regulated regular game chat to what chat is in pvp. This isn't an argument against a change btw, just this specific point

I don't understand the point you're trying to make here. The lodestone can be used to stalk someone, and this method of stalking people is not uncommon. The fact remains that harassing and stalking can get so bad, some people feel they have no choice but to delete their character, or quit the game entirely. Players should have a choice to privatize their lodestone profile.

[Senn]

There needs to be a privacy option to restrict who can view your Lodestone page:

• Public
• Friends, Free Company, and Linkshells
• Friends and Free Company
• Friends
• Private

If you attempt to view a restricted Lodestone profile, an error will say that either no such character exists or the character's Lodestone profile is restricted by privacy settings. It wouldn't specify which. There is already the option to restrict your online status, achievements, friends list, and followers list. That should be expanded to restrict the entire Lodestone profile page.

Yes to all this.

They also need to make it so if you block another player, you are automatically removed from their friends list and cannot be added back unless you unblock them.

This feature is going to be implemented in a new update. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ch_option_qol/