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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    The average player seems to know. There are some that don't, occasionally from the fact that there's misinformation out there about how to do things.
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  2. #22
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    Avoidy's Avatar
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Strong opinion time - and not really used to saying something like this..... but really - who cares?

    I mean, some forumites here quite frequently express the opinion that they think the game is too easy and make claims about "practically falling asleep" when playing the more difficult content. So where is the issue here? If you're that good - that sure of yourself, why does the performance of another player even matter to you?

    Seriously - if you're going to express the opinion that the game fails to deliver in terms of hard content, why is compensating for someone who "can't play their job" such a big deal?
    For the most part (most of the content in this game doesn't have enrages) it really doesn't matter. But the question was asked, so people answered. Why would you enter a discussion about this topic just to ask "who cares"?
    And for content where enrages exist, personal performance absolutely matters. You'll get hardstuck and be unable to clear if your group's full of dead weight.
    Quote Originally Posted by PintyMcEars View Post
    I pretty much never see any of what you mention...interesting
    If you weren't on Light, I'd suggest just using DC travel to come on over and enjoy Crystal dutyfinder for yourself. Maybe EU is just better at the game on average, idk dude. All I know is I saw so much shit here that I just started running roulettes with friends because I was tired of a 15 minute thing taking half an hour.
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  3. #23
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    PintyMcEars's Avatar
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    Azara Stormleaf
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    For the most part (most of the content in this game doesn't have enrages) it really doesn't matter. But the question was asked, so people answered. Why would you enter a discussion about this topic just to ask "who cares"?
    And for content where enrages exist, personal performance absolutely matters. You'll get hardstuck and be unable to clear if your group's full of dead weight.

    If you weren't on Light, I'd suggest just using DC travel to come on over and enjoy Crystal dutyfinder for yourself. Maybe EU is just better at the game on average, idk dude. All I know is I saw so much shit here that I just started running roulettes with friends because I was tired of a 15 minute thing taking half an hour.
    Ya maybe its a DC thing. That sucks
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  4. #24
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    Wolwosh's Avatar
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    Ulorin Ardor
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    The avarage player in FF14 is playing very poorly imo and there is a minority of decent/good players.
    Even at level 90 I see people not aoe'ing, using tank cooldowns when the pull is nearly done, in alliance I never heal anymore because my co-healer 99% ott thinks they need to pop every heal CD after every AOE.
    I'm very good at ignoring people, but its getting harder to do because its just so obvious
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  5. #25
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    Teki Suto
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    Siren
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    So where is the issue here? If you're that good - that sure of yourself, why does the performance of another player even matter to you?

    Seriously - if you're going to express the opinion that the game fails to deliver in terms of hard content, why is compensating for someone who "can't play their job" such a big deal?
    Because it's a team game?
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  6. #26
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    Jybril's Avatar
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 60
    It's incredibly hard to be bad at this game when you have to push like 5 buttons.
    2 on healers lel. Combat is the same boring, tired mechs we all known for years.
    The hard part is the constant light shows you have to push through to see crap.

    But alas, we still have people not knowing those same mechs despite
    being here since the beginning. Average players kinda suck in this ez game.
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  7. #27
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    its easy because they kinda suck and they kinda suck because its easy.... where did it start?
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  8. #28
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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    its easy because they kinda suck and they kinda suck because its easy.... where did it start?
    Lack of a challenge across the way is the patient 0 here. Game does a horrible job at preparing players.
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  9. #29
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Idk maybe I’m playing some alternate reality version of the game but I think this idea that the general ffxiv player has a brain made of pudding is an over exaggeration. From what I’ve seen the average ffxiv player is…average lol. Dps generally do the bare minimum which is follow their rotation and use buffs at 120s. Healers almost always prioritise dps over healing which is exactly what they’re expected to do lol. Tanks generally use their cool downs and I’ve found most tanks will use their party based cool downs for big attacks as well.

    This is just based on random duty finders but in my experience general players aren’t that bad lol. They’re not ‘that good’ either - just, well, average lol
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  10. #30
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I think the average player does know, but I don't think the average player knows as well as they should, or could for that matter, e.g., drifting CDs. Similarly, I do think there is a bigger issue of people simply just not caring than there is of people genuinely misunderstanding.

    It's very hard to teach people how to care, and it is much harder to have this care stick to something like learning a class, or even something in general, and I do say this as someone in the field of education, if someone doesn't want to learn, they will not learn and they will continue to do as they please - Now this could hypothetically be addressed but that in itself would cause issues
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