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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineP View Post
    Yoshis a gamer like us.
    As the kids say, "KEKW."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Correction: Specific add-ons ruin the fun.

    The overwhelming majority of add-ons, plugins and mods are simple quality of life upgrades or purely cosmetic. What's made third party plugins become so prevalent is they address long standing issues with the game Square Enix simply refused to or set it as low priority. Is it not a little convenient things like being able to highlight physical and magical damage or having buff timers displayed on the party list were implemented immediately after Dragonsong highlighted them yet have been asked about for years prior. This sort of response outright encourages people to keep pushing those boundaries because it's shown to actually produce results whereas being patient and asking leads to nothing.

    Then you venture into parsers which impact the game is a massive way. Those rotation every one of us uses from the Balance? All mathed out via a parser. A game designed around hard enrages will naturally encourage the use of damage meters because people playing at that level want some idea of their performance. Without ACT, you literally have zero idea what are causing DPS issues. There's a reason practically every MMO except FFXIV has them officially implemented.
    Correction.

    ALL add-ons are against the TOS.

    He obviously wants his game to be experienced as he published it. You want to mod it? Then go look at the announcement.

    He's told us he's going to revamp in 7.0.

    He has shown adjustments with the timers recently.
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    I think its too early to tell if these events will lead to a stopping of the Raids. I think its likely just emotion talking, but can you blame him? When players ask for harder content, but seem so willing to cheat at the first chance, then you can see why one would ask what the point of all that effort is.

    I suppose this could lead to such content being made less hard, but I do not think that's the issue here. It seems to me its less a case of "This content is too hard so we have to use mods and cheat" and more "We want the World First so we are gonna use mods to give us an advantage." Which I should say is still cheating even if others are doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineP View Post
    Correction.

    ALL add-ons are against the TOS.

    He obviously wants his game to be experienced as he published it. You want to mod it? Then go look at the announcement.

    He's told us he's going to revamp in 7.0.

    He has shown adjustments with the timers recently.
    You do realize ACT and FFlogs have been existed and been known to Yoshida since their inception over eight years ago? Guess what they did about them? Precisely nothing because they literally can't without scanning your PC.

    All of those add-ons I mentioned have hundreds of thousands of downloads nowadays. The sheer amount of money Square Enix will lose in a hypothetical scenario where they did manage to break them would be enormous. People will unsubscribe if mods, ACT and the like go away.

    Yoshida has said no such thing about a revamp in 7.0. They're simply doing a graphical overhaul which they've already shown off. Nothing will change regarding add-ons and third party tools. They'll remain exactly as they have for years now: keep them to yourself. If your "adjustment with timers" is in reference to buff timers. That was added right after it became public with Dragonsong. Like I said, it isn't a good look for the dev team when a featured requested for years gets implemented only after a third party program does it and the users make it public.
    (17)
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  5. #25
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    Vivian Rysto
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    To be completely honest... If the community asked me for super hard content and then cheated to clear it when I deliver, I'd also be thinking "what's the point then"
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    You do realize ACT and FFlogs have been existed and been known to Yoshida since their inception over eight years ago? Guess what they did about them? Precisely nothing because they literally can't without scanning your PC.

    All of those add-ons I mentioned have hundreds of thousands of downloads nowadays. The sheer amount of money Square Enix will lose in a hypothetical scenario where they did manage to break them would be enormous. People will unsubscribe if mods, ACT and the like go away.

    Yoshida has said no such thing about a revamp in 7.0. They're simply doing a graphical overhaul which they've already shown off. Nothing will change regarding add-ons and third party tools. They'll remain exactly as they have for years now: keep them to yourself. If your "adjustment with timers" is in reference to buff timers. That was added right after it became public with Dragonsong. Like I said, it isn't a good look for the dev team when a featured requested for years gets implemented only after a third party program does it and the users make it public.
    Yeah. At this point, SE should probably adapt and evolve instead of guilt tripping the player base every time mods and add-ons are brought up. Adding some requested features would benefit everyone. Many add-ons exist because the player base feels that various aspects of the game are lacking and could be improved. WoW officially has addons and yet mythic raiding world first races are viewed as an exciting event. Maybe not to me, but I get the appeal. At the end of the day, it comes down to game design. Improve the design and lessen the need for mods and add-ons, or just make add-ons official, and the problem solves itself.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 02-01-2023 at 07:28 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    To be completely honest... If the community asked me for super hard content and then cheated to clear it when I deliver, I'd also be thinking "what's the point then"
    every single ultimate has been cleared with 3rd party addons in the WF kill (if we include the now redacted TOP kill)

    you just wernt aware of it acutely until now
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  8. #28
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    personally i wouldnt mind if they were more closer to tea/uwu rather than ucob/dsr play perfectly for 17-20 minutes
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    They're not assuming. That's why there's a topic, asking if they're reading too much into it.

    If anyone's outright putting words in other people's mouths it would be you.
    Topic is "Did SE threaten to not make ultimates anymore" based on something Yoshida said. In the same post he made about disliking people putting words in his mouth. People just never get it do they
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    You do realize ACT and FFlogs have been existed and been known to Yoshida since their inception over eight years ago? Guess what they did about them? Precisely nothing because they literally can't without scanning your PC.

    All of those add-ons I mentioned have hundreds of thousands of downloads nowadays. The sheer amount of money Square Enix will lose in a hypothetical scenario where they did manage to break them would be enormous. People will unsubscribe if mods, ACT and the like go away.

    Yoshida has said no such thing about a revamp in 7.0. They're simply doing a graphical overhaul which they've already shown off. Nothing will change regarding add-ons and third party tools. They'll remain exactly as they have for years now: keep them to yourself. If your "adjustment with timers" is in reference to buff timers. That was added right after it became public with Dragonsong. Like I said, it isn't a good look for the dev team when a featured requested for years gets implemented only after a third party program does it and the users make it public.
    Indeed. I'm sorry chick, ACT, Zoom, your pretty add-on thing in 3D have always been against the TOS.

    Ppl hid the minor ones but now, sadly, they are all coming to light.
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