Housing Roulette was an absolute trash idea.

[Stormpeaks]

I feel like people only want the old placard spam back because it'll limit how many people show up compared to the lottery and better their own odds. You're right, people have lives and shouldn't be forced to stand there for hours on end and having a life doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to get a house. The new system is better for giving everyone a chance who wants one and it's 100x better just on that fact.

And it's also better at making it agonizing to go pick up your gil at the placard when you just lost, after having waited 5 days for result, to then have to wait another 4 days to even bid again, and a whole 9 days to have the next results.

The odds of winning a house at a placard as one person agaisnt 50 is better than one person agaisnt 300 in lottery.

There was something called "Prime time", you never needed to camp a placard all day long, the prime time window was about 3 to 4 hours if I remember correctly in which the chance for the plot to sell was almost maximized. The people who camped all day long were doing it wrong.

[LianaThorne]

And it's also better at making it agonizing to go pick up your gil at the placard when you just lost, after having waited 5 days for result, to then have to wait another 4 days to even bid again, and a whole 9 days to have the next results.

The odds of winning a house at a placard as one person agaisnt 50 is better than one person agaisnt 300 in lottery

Odds are very dependant on where you are server wise. When placard spam was a thing I rarely saw over 10 people at one in my old server. On my server now, it's either 1 person bidding against me or 0. So, in my case it's better as the lottery.

Also not to mention you don't need to literally avoid eating, drinking or using the bathroom the entire time out of fear of missing the chance to click. If that's not unhealthy to you then idk lol.

[Stormpeaks]

Odds are very dependant on where you are server wise. When placard spam was a thing I rarely saw over 10 people at one in my old server. On my server now, it's either 1 person bidding against me or 0. So, in my case it's better as the lottery.

Also not to mention you don't need to literally avoid eating, drinking or using the bathroom the entire time out of fear of missing the chance to click. If that's not unhealthy to you then idk lol.

Not saying its healthy, I really am not, but it was still better than waiting an entire 9 days per cycle in my opinion, in any case the new worlds and wards seem to have fixed the housing crisis pretty much, so I think at this point it's a non issue, except maybe on Balmung and some select NA worlds, lottery and new wards did their job, and the people that still dont have a house are people that react as "but i want shiro and not goblet !!" when they see a large shiro with 50 bids and a large goblet with 3 bids and decided to bid on the shiro one.

People are too difficult, people want shiro or mist, while ishgard or goblet are almost completely deserted, and yet people complain that there's no houses, it really is self inflicted at this point

Also another thing I mentioned earlier I think in this post, send people their gil via mail, remove this walk of shame to the plot when you've lost it and the person is literally decorating it as you come by to pick up your money, it's really unnecessary and frustrating

[Toutatis]

Not saying its healthy, I really am not, but it was still better than waiting an entire 9 days per cycle in my opinion.

ah the need of instant gratification and the joys of having unlimited free time! I’d rather spend two minutes of my time with the new system and play the game while I wait than dumb clicking a panel for hours. Anyway, I have a family, a job, properties to maintain and finding “just” 3-4 consecutive hours at a given time to click non stop on a panel is impossible. I’m sure that’s the case of many others too.

I don’t mind collecting my money from the placard if I lost. I don’t see what is shameful about it: it’s a random draw. Not everyone is a sore loser: I’ve recently helped a winner setting up his house as he was unfamiliar with the system. Someone did the same thing with me when I won my first house too.

[Carin-Eri]

And it's also better at making it agonizing to go pick up your gil at the placard when you just lost, after having waited 5 days for result, to then have to wait another 4 days to even bid again, and a whole 9 days to have the next results.

The odds of winning a house at a placard as one person agaisnt 50 is better than one person agaisnt 300 in lottery.

There was something called "Prime time", you never needed to camp a placard all day long, the prime time window was about 3 to 4 hours if I remember correctly in which the chance for the plot to sell was almost maximized. The people who camped all day long were doing it wrong.

But as others are saying (and I myself said in an earlier post) the only reason that it was, as you put it, "one person against 50" was probably that those 50 people were able to be online at that time to spam click the placard. The other 250 people, who likely wanted a house just as badly as everyone else, simply couldn't be online to spam-click and thus lost out on even the chance of trying for that house.

Again, if the old method of obtaining a house plot were still in place I would never had been given the opportunity to bid for one due time limitations, and I probably wouldn't have bothered even if I could have; I don't find the idea of sacrificing X amount of time (and being unable to do anything else either IRL or in-game in the meantime) obsessively repeat-clicking a placard even remotely appealing.

[JOsha]

And it's also better at making it agonizing to go pick up your gil at the placard when you just lost, after having waited 5 days for result, to then have to wait another 4 days to even bid again, and a whole 9 days to have the next results.

The odds of winning a house at a placard as one person agaisnt 50 is better than one person agaisnt 300 in lottery.

There was something called "Prime time", you never needed to camp a placard all day long, the prime time window was about 3 to 4 hours if I remember correctly in which the chance for the plot to sell was almost maximized. The people who camped all day long were doing it wrong.

What odds? Odds of having better internet? Odds of living closer to a server? Odds of being jobless and able to spend 12 hours a day clicking and doing nothing? Odds of paying people to click for you or using bots?


At least the new system gives every single person an equal chance. It's just pure probability and nothing else. It isn't perfect but at least it isn't broken like before.

[Stormpeaks]

What odds? Odds of having better internet? Odds of living closer to a server? Odds of being jobless and able to spend 12 hours a day clicking and doing nothing? Odds of paying people to click for you or using bots?


At least the new system gives every single person an equal chance. It's just pure probability and nothing else. It isn't perfect but at least it isn't broken like before.

Once again, you never had to camp a placard all day long, the only time you needed to camp was in the middle of prime time.

[Jaquan]

And if you couldn't... Goodbye dreams of housing. Or if your connection lagged... Yeah I took my odds with lottery. Was decent amount of free Houses in Shiro where nobody bid since they weren't in the prime location. All it takes is to do your research... Now I'm stuck trying to figure out how the hell I want it to look like

[Stormpeaks]

And if you couldn't... Goodbye dreams of housing. Or if your connection lagged... Yeah I took my odds with lottery. Was decent amount of free Houses in Shiro where nobody bid since they weren't in the prime location. All it takes is to do your research... Now I'm stuck trying to figure out how the hell I want it to look like

Are you seriously implying that prime time would never end up in someone's schedule ?

[Ayan_Calvesse]

What odds? Odds of having better internet? Odds of living closer to a server? Odds of being jobless and able to spend 12 hours a day clicking and doing nothing? Odds of paying people to click for you or using bots?


At least the new system gives every single person an equal chance. It's just pure probability and nothing else. It isn't perfect but at least it isn't broken like before.

Ladies ladies...lets all calm down in a bubble bath.

I think the crux is really "time"
The placard folks don't want to wait over a week to know if they lost.
The lotto folks don't want to camp a spot for (at least) 4 hours.

Both arguments have merit to them - the lotto system does not move fast enough; and the placard system requires too much time committed.

Also the lotto system still punishes folks with less free time; because those that got the time can keep checking ensuring that in the end they can bid against the least competition.

That said I think it would be nice to..
1. Make the lotto system much shorter
2. Allow you to ask your retainer to place a bid on up to 3 choices of lot; using the gil you have on them. Your retainer would automatically bid on any of those lots based on the priority (1>2>3) allowing folks to bid that do not have time; while still keeping the lotto intact; while drastically speeding up the entire housing process.