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    I still haven't forgiven SE for cutting off everyones tail when using Enshroud on Reaper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kooper16 View Post
    I still haven't forgiven SE for cutting off everyones tail when using Enshroud on Reaper
    You and me both. Reaper is an unplayable class. Even viera get their ears chopped off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    You and me both. Reaper is an unplayable class. Even viera get their ears chopped off.
    tails, viera ears, hrothgar faces... just imagine if they'd added a winged race... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    tails, viera ears, hrothgar faces... just imagine if they'd added a winged race... lol
    I don't have any wings as fashion accessories, but those could be a good gauge on what it would look like. I really need to get some.

    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Imagine if people said the same about you whenever you guys ask for more head gear. How does it feel making the devs not even bother giving you hats because "ears might clip"? As a Hrothgar who only marginally can wear a bit more than you can, I have an educated guess.
    All the talk on au ra and miqo'te, but people might forget that hrothgar also have this issue, and it will be more of a problem when female hrothgar are added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    All the talk on au ra and miqo'te, but people might forget that hrothgar also have this issue, and it will be more of a problem when female hrothgar are added.
    Everyone loves forgetting about us.

    What I love the most is when we have a problem, voice it, are told to shut up, and then SE does something to those other races and they pikachu-face like they didn't see it coming.

    Issue is that this tail thing was already a thing before Viera or Hrothgar were announced, along with Miqo'te ears being cut off and Au Ra horns clipping in weird places altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Everyone loves forgetting about us.

    What I love the most is when we have a problem, voice it, are told to shut up, and then SE does something to those other races and they pikachu-face like they didn't see it coming.

    Issue is that this tail thing was already a thing before Viera or Hrothgar were announced, along with Miqo'te ears being cut off and Au Ra horns clipping in weird places altogether.
    Don't worry, I don't.

    Yeah, they had stopped largely accommodating racial features, including tail accommodation - which literally usually amounts to a bow or something to hide any clipping (apparently, doing that is too much), but there weren't so many capes until this expansion. Don't get me wrong, capes can look good. For example, the sheer cape on the tank chest in Aglaia. It is very nice, and since it is split it works for tailed races (although au ra tails, at least, clip through the metal, but I digress). The problem is capes largely DON'T look good in this game, and are literally, like, glued to your butt. Frankly, they look terrible even if you play a race without a tail.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Don't worry, I don't.

    Yeah, they had stopped largely accommodating racial features, including tail accommodation - which literally usually amounts to a bow or something to hide any clipping (apparently, doing that is too much), but there weren't so many capes until this expansion. Don't get me wrong, capes can look good. For example, the sheer cape on the tank chest in Aglaia. It is very nice, and since it is split it works for tailed races (although au ra tails, at least, clip through the metal, but I digress). The problem is capes largely DON'T look good in this game, and are literally, like, glued to your butt. Frankly, they look terrible even if you play a race without a tail.
    That's because, save for stuff that's heavily animated, this game tends to do models out of cardboard. Which, I get, the game is pretty but still has to be playable (or we end up with the 1000 polygon vase case from 1.0 again). Meaning capes will naturally appear like they're made of plastic. They can move, but it's not like proper fabric, and just dangles a little while still hard-stuck to you. Which, again, makes sense given the nature of the game.

    Are the Au Ra tails having issues across every option? Or is it just happening in those really thick or overly-spiky options?

    On the races thing... I know you do. It's just... eh. I'm used to it. I just rather not always have to be the one nag going into threads and be like "Remember Hrothgars exist" to make people realize "Oh sh** yeah you guys have this problem too!". More often than not, Viera-made threads are a coin-flip on whether they mention us or not. And Miqo'te or Au Ra-made threads tend to only reference eachother, but almost never any other race. Of course though, this makes sense because naturally those players aren't the sort of players that would go for races like Hrothgar or Roegadyn. But it doesn't hurt to ask. I know we're rare, but we're not that rare.

    And I feel like part of the reason the devs are so surprised about Hrothgar feedback not matching what they feel is because on top of us being a quiet race, other races typically leave us out of complaints that would naturally also include us. We have tails too, yet people assume that it's only a problem for Miqos or Au Ra. (feel free to disagree, naturally)

    Though what I wrote was more so on people not realizing that they're on a similar boat :T
    Like... Viera also get comments like "Don't play X race if you don't like the limitations".
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