What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[aveyond-dreams]

Do not think, just feel.

Endwalker really was little more than a sound and color show generated to get those who didn't care to give the story a second look all the "feelz" in the world while screwing those of us who expected a satisfactory conclusion to a decades long arc.

[Graeham]

Of course, some of you have cried about being "chased out" of it – because posters like Lauront countered you with cold hard facts from in-game sources… I also remember personally calling you out for making up aether weight/density mathematics as you went in order to make the fallacious argument that the third sacrifice would have had to consume all life to bring Ancients back…
But regardless, I like to imagine that, just for a second, you got the sentiment you were being piled on by the oppressive majority (of this tiny pocket of internet space, mind you), your opinion callously dismissed. How does it feel when the shoe is on the other foot? Because this is how we feel, constantly. When browsing Twitter, or any subreddit dedicated to FFXIV.
You seem to be under the impression that we all believe we're the silent majority and that everyone totally hates Endwalker – which is, of course, insane, and literally nobody thinks that, but of course it is your goal to paint us as unreasonable to begin with. Trust me, we are all very well aware of the majority's opinion on Endwalker.

The Tariq make the good point. You can not argue with dictionary because dictionary it is making the word.

Tread it is not the Echo chamber. Echo it is use by the warden of the light and the evil Venar and the evil Loprabbit. Is hate by No Shadow God. So can not be the Echo chamber.

Tread it is the safe space. Safe space it mean safe for guild. It mean unsafe space for the forum paladin and the Yoshi Island. Can not invade the tread because it unfair. Guild it laugh on the reddit. It laugh on the twitter. It laugh on the pinterest. It laugh on the fourchanalt. It laugh on the tumbler. It laugh on the twitch. It posting the burger emoji and the apple emoji and the buuz emoji. Now no other place to go to be expressing the guild take. Must having the place for the silent majority to expressing the alternating universe view when oppress by the loud majority.

Have the sympathy and listen to guild. Guild know it is not the majority and is oppress. But listen to guild because it represent the silent majority. This can cause confuse but be paying the attention. It is the difficult concept like read the Swedish translate of script.

[AwesomeJr44]

Graeham Post

As funny as this is to read, is it just me or is Graeham becoming harder and harder to understand? Usually I'm able to still understand what he's saying, but I'm starting to just get confused sometimes.

[Teraq]

or even genocide apologists?

Endwalker 6.0: "oh how the turn tables…". Truly, some of the best community-related fallout of Endwalker has been watching the very same people who used to go "genocide is never okay!!!!!!!!!!!" "cool story bro, still genocide" "lmao u just like Emet bc he's a tumblr sexyman but ummmmm did u know he commits GENOCIDE…" now trip all over themselves to excuse genocide.

But hey… it's fine when you have Answers swelling in the background. Look how much she suffered from making everyone else suffer! Look how silly these stupid ancient man babies are for, uh, reacting to the literal end of the world with distress!

God-tier emotional manipulation. It would have been honestly brilliant to have this be actual tempering.

[Liam_Harper]

I don't know if it's just me, but after 6.0 I've completely lost interest in the story in the following patches. I couldn't care less about any of the current characters or what's happening with the whole plot in the Void or anything else. I'm not a lore expert at all, but get the feeling the reason is that I was already invested in the previous story and everything it was building up towards. I was looking forward to a full Garlemald expansion or when they finally started developing Zenos after pulling him along for so long or how Zodiark would turn out or learning how the ancients, an unsundered race supposedly miles above ours fell apart.
And next thing it's suddenly done and over and we got a bit of ruins and snow for Garlemald, stomped Zodiark in 10 minutes, Hydaelyn is good because reasons, Zenos is a random pest in the background and the ancients were undone by a single crazy guy and the twitter bird. Then I'm meant to be satisfied and immediately get invested into an entirely new (and rather bland) plot.

I haven't even done MSQ this patch. It's just a chore I'll get round to for 6.4 to unlock the next raid tier. Interestingly enough I'm still enjoying the 8 man story though.

Endwalker really was little more than a sound and color show generated to get those who didn't care to give the story a second look all the "feelz" in the world while screwing those of us who expected a satisfactory conclusion to a decades long arc.

Basically. The Endwalker expansion is the sort of story that was entertaining on the first playthrough, but you'd never want to go back and do it again.

[Talonk]

I don't know if it's just me, but after 6.0 I've completely lost interest in the story in the following patches. I couldn't care less about any of the current characters or what's happening with the whole plot in the Void or anything else. I'm not a lore expert at all, but get the feeling the reason is that I was already invested in the previous story and everything it was building up towards. I was looking forward to a full Garlemald expansion or when they finally started developing Zenos after pulling him along for so long or how Zodiark would turn out or learning how the ancients, an unsundered race supposedly miles above ours fell apart.
And next thing it's suddenly done and over and we got a bit of ruins and snow for Garlemald, stomped Zodiark in 10 minutes, Hydaelyn is good because reasons, Zenos is a random pest in the background and the ancients were undone by a single crazy guy and the twitter bird. Then I'm meant to be satisfied and immediately get invested into an entirely new (and rather bland) plot.

I haven't even done MSQ this patch. It's just a chore I'll get round to for 6.4 to unlock the next raid tier. Interestingly enough I'm still enjoying the 8 man story though.



Basically. The Endwalker expansion is the sort of story that was entertaining on the first playthrough, but you'd never want to go back and do it again.

I agree. I new game plus'd Shadowbringers 14 times (Not a coincidence) I dont think I could bare one new game plus on Endwalker. Like Graeham says. the evil Loprabbits keep me away. Im hoping 7.0 Will be so much better and start building a fantastic Arc outside of hydaelyn and Zodiark. I think once the Cosmic feel of the story goes away it will open up to hidden beasts of Eitheryis or even liberating uldah from the Lalasyndicate.

[LalafellDown]

After 6.0 I lost interest. It was a great build up and ending. I was hoping for more space exploration and time travel after 6.0. We have a space ship let go somewhere. Like a random dead moon with random horror mysteries would be fun. There’s a random spaceship on our moon perhaps there’s monsters from Dead Space on it? Why are we saving stuff and teaching about friendship? I really dislike the long cutscene’s in 6.3 about giving out food and tipping the hat.

The 13th is meh and I’m not really interested in the current storyline. I would rather visit the world that blew itself up in war and see how their world looks even though there’s nothing left. That’s more relatable and entertaining.

Maybe we could get a what if we joined the bad guys scenario like with the ultimate mode where what’s his face lives. That would be more interesting.

[Naraka]

Just finished Endwalker. For me it was by far the worst expansion/story. I thought Shadowbringer was bad, but this was even worse.
Stormblood was my favorite, then Heavensward and ARR was OK. I am so done with this power of friendship crap.

[FirstGearFirstGear]

The power of friendship is literally the central theme of the entirety of FF14.

[aveyond-dreams]

Just finished Endwalker. For me it was by far the worst expansion/story. I thought Shadowbringer was bad, but this was even worse.
Stormblood was my favorite, then Heavensward and ARR was OK. I am so done with this power of friendship crap.

Likewise. While I enjoyed Shadowbringers at the time it was released, the fact that Ishikawa got her foot in the door with a passable story first only to slam us with the atrocity that was Endwalker's writing pretty much retroactively soured me on that expansion and her previous writing. At this point I think Heavensward is my favorite. Oh to see a return to that bygone era even as the people who scream and protest whenever I bring it up suddenly find themselves liking the expansion because it being officially sanctioned as a thing FFXIV fans must like will likely supersede their contrarianism.