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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiel_Tana View Post
    Zepla made a video questioning Venat's heroism? I'd be interested in watching her take on it but can't find the link, would you share it please?
    Ah, no, sorry, two different things. Here's the bit from Zepla's stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHI1YL7850g
    The video kind of questioning her is someone else entirely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad6O0vSKWps

    Not that the guy is entirely right in his assessment either, IMO. But the comments are… interesting…
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    Ah I misunderstood, still though, thanks for the links the second one looks to be worth a watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraq View Post
    Ah, no, sorry, two different things. Here's the bit from Zepla's stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHI1YL7850g
    The video kind of questioning her is someone else entirely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad6O0vSKWps

    Not that the guy is entirely right in his assessment either, IMO. But the comments are… interesting…
    I stopped watching when he described the dialogue in the sundering scene as "god-tier" and the way they reinterpreted the lyrics of Answer "genius"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    I stopped watching when he described the dialogue in the sundering scene as "god-tier" and the way they reinterpreted the lyrics of Answer "genius"...
    So, you stopped watching when someone offered an opinion you disagree with? And people wonder why this place gets called an echo chamber of negativity...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    So, you stopped watching when someone offered an opinion you disagree with? And people wonder why this place gets called an echo chamber of negativity...
    I mean you can pick a choose. A few places like outside can be positive and negative. all depends on how you look at it

    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    I stopped watching when he described the dialogue in the sundering scene as "god-tier" and the way they reinterpreted the lyrics of Answer "genius"...
    ill say keep going he does make interesting points
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    And people wonder why this place gets called an echo chamber of negativity...
    The forums gets called an echo chamber of negativity by your imaginary majority. (and people who either don't actually use the forums or are so steeped in toxic positivity that any negativity being allowed to exist = echo chamber of negativity)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    I stopped watching when he described the dialogue in the sundering scene as "god-tier" and the way they reinterpreted the lyrics of Answer "genius"...
    I mean it was god-tier bad and some of the worst narrative gaslighting I've ever seen, so I suppose it's genius in the way it really managed to ruin the whole story in a span of about 15 minutes.
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    Авейонд-сны


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraq View Post
    Do not think, just feel.
    Endwalker really was little more than a sound and color show generated to get those who didn't care to give the story a second look all the "feelz" in the world while screwing those of us who expected a satisfactory conclusion to a decades long arc.
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    Авейонд-сны


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    I don't know if it's just me, but after 6.0 I've completely lost interest in the story in the following patches. I couldn't care less about any of the current characters or what's happening with the whole plot in the Void or anything else. I'm not a lore expert at all, but get the feeling the reason is that I was already invested in the previous story and everything it was building up towards. I was looking forward to a full Garlemald expansion or when they finally started developing Zenos after pulling him along for so long or how Zodiark would turn out or learning how the ancients, an unsundered race supposedly miles above ours fell apart.
    And next thing it's suddenly done and over and we got a bit of ruins and snow for Garlemald, stomped Zodiark in 10 minutes, Hydaelyn is good because reasons, Zenos is a random pest in the background and the ancients were undone by a single crazy guy and the twitter bird. Then I'm meant to be satisfied and immediately get invested into an entirely new (and rather bland) plot.

    I haven't even done MSQ this patch. It's just a chore I'll get round to for 6.4 to unlock the next raid tier. Interestingly enough I'm still enjoying the 8 man story though.

    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Endwalker really was little more than a sound and color show generated to get those who didn't care to give the story a second look all the "feelz" in the world while screwing those of us who expected a satisfactory conclusion to a decades long arc.
    Basically. The Endwalker expansion is the sort of story that was entertaining on the first playthrough, but you'd never want to go back and do it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    I don't know if it's just me, but after 6.0 I've completely lost interest in the story in the following patches. I couldn't care less about any of the current characters or what's happening with the whole plot in the Void or anything else. I'm not a lore expert at all, but get the feeling the reason is that I was already invested in the previous story and everything it was building up towards. I was looking forward to a full Garlemald expansion or when they finally started developing Zenos after pulling him along for so long or how Zodiark would turn out or learning how the ancients, an unsundered race supposedly miles above ours fell apart.
    And next thing it's suddenly done and over and we got a bit of ruins and snow for Garlemald, stomped Zodiark in 10 minutes, Hydaelyn is good because reasons, Zenos is a random pest in the background and the ancients were undone by a single crazy guy and the twitter bird. Then I'm meant to be satisfied and immediately get invested into an entirely new (and rather bland) plot.

    I haven't even done MSQ this patch. It's just a chore I'll get round to for 6.4 to unlock the next raid tier. Interestingly enough I'm still enjoying the 8 man story though.



    Basically. The Endwalker expansion is the sort of story that was entertaining on the first playthrough, but you'd never want to go back and do it again.
    I agree. I new game plus'd Shadowbringers 14 times (Not a coincidence) I dont think I could bare one new game plus on Endwalker. Like Graeham says. the evil Loprabbits keep me away. Im hoping 7.0 Will be so much better and start building a fantastic Arc outside of hydaelyn and Zodiark. I think once the Cosmic feel of the story goes away it will open up to hidden beasts of Eitheryis or even liberating uldah from the Lalasyndicate.
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