Need more wards.

[Reinha]

I'd love Sharlayan housing because just like in Ishgard it snows sometimes and the lighting and scenery both look great. Best of all, access to Sharlayan is gated behind a level 80 quest.

[Yodada]

I'd love Sharlayan housing because just like in Ishgard it snows sometimes and the lighting and scenery both look great. Best of all, access to Sharlayan is gated behind a level 80 quest.

Story Boost goes brrr. Your gated access wont work. It showed already with Shirogane and Empyreum ;P

[Reinha]

Story Boost goes brrr. Your gated access wont work. It showed already with Shirogane and Empyreum ;P

Has every player bought a story boost for their alt? No? Then it works. Also makes it very expensive to set up shell fc farms, which is a nice bonus.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

Housing does not exist to tie players to the game. It exists because it is a popular feature in MMOs and players always request it when it is absent. Happy players with things to do are what keep them tied to a game, not ownership of a house in a game they otherwise have no interest in playing. Only fools pay to retain ownership of virtual pixels in a game they aren't playing instead of spending that money on the game they are playing.

Are you being serious here? Because if so you really are making a weak argument; especially if your such a big fan of proving it.

As for 7.0 if the trend continues we will see a new housing district; to claim SE is not taking action to address the need for more housing or will suddenly stop doing so given that they have taken steps is acting in bad faith at best. But hey if your around when 7.0 is announced I look forward to your apology for doubting :-P.

Also to address your arguement about Demo - we are talking about the current issue; not the past.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Are you being serious here? Because if so you really are making a weak argument; especially if your such a big fan of proving it.

As for 7.0 if the trend continues we will see a new housing district; to claim SE is not taking action to address the need for more housing or will suddenly stop doing so given that they have taken steps is acting in bad faith at best. But hey if your around when 7.0 is announced I look forward to your apology for doubting :-P.

Also to address your arguement about Demo - we are talking about the current issue; not the past.

Would it not be 8.0? 7.0 would be us building an area up?

[Ayan_Calvesse]

Would it not be 8.0? 7.0 would be us building the area up.

Its more us establishing a foundation/rapport with the group; but I can see your logic there - though that would likely mean Yelidmad would be the next location (as we would be rebuilding it after story events took place)
As it stands however We did Heavensward (nothing) Storm Blood (walked right into Shiro) SB (Built the Empyrium/nothing) Endwalker (Moved in)
So if we look at that pattern it would suggest we will be making the new housing district; not moving in - thank you for the insight.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Its more us establishing a foundation/rapport with the group; but I can see your logic there - though that would likely mean Yelidmad would be the next location (as we would be rebuilding it after story events took place)
As it stands however We did Heavensward (nothing) Storm Blood (walked right into Shiro) SB (Built the Empyrium/nothing) Endwalker (Moved in)
So if we look at that pattern it would suggest we will be making the new housing district; not moving in - thank you for the insight.

I mean you could be right and I hope you are, but it seems to be every other at present. I mean the building up area is also a guess, but i'm sure we will get some version of building an area up i.e Doman Enclave.

[Jojoya]

Are you being serious here? Because if so you really are making a weak argument; especially if your such a big fan of proving it.

As for 7.0 if the trend continues we will see a new housing district; to claim SE is not taking action to address the need for more housing or will suddenly stop doing so given that they have taken steps is acting in bad faith at best. But hey if your around when 7.0 is announced I look forward to your apology for doubting :-P.

Also to address your arguement about Demo - we are talking about the current issue; not the past.

I'm being serious here. Housing does not exist to tie a player to the game. You can get an apartment with no risk of demolition.

If you want a house, you can sub one month then unsub 6 weeks in a repeating pattern to keep a house in a game you're not playing. You don't have to stay constantly subbed.

What's really dumb is people's insistence that they absolutely must own a house in a game they only play a few weeks a year at most. If they feel tied to the game they're doing it to themselves because ownership of a house does not confer anything mandatory or essential to playing the rest of the game.

If SE follows their "normal pattern" (if you want to call adding 2 housing districts to the original 3 a pattern), we won't see a new housing district until 8.1. We *might* see the addition of more wards depending on how many or how few plots are still available after the remaining new worlds previously announced get added this year followed by the launch of 7.0 in (hopefully) mid-2024.

I don't have anything to apologize for now nor will I when 7.0 is released. But at least we won't have to worry about your access to food for a few weeks because you're going to have a crazy amount of egg on your face.

As for demolition - it is always relevant to any discussion of housing supply in this game. If houses existed to tie players to the game, demolition would never be suspended under any circumstances.

[Themarvin]

Just keep adding them. Breaks the servers.

Or or or or...
Add fucking instanced housing.

Instanced housing is like Island Sanctuary and also move to another server if you are out of houses.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

I'm being serious here. Housing does not exist to tie a player to the game. You can get an apartment with no risk of demolition.

If you want a house, you can sub one month then unsub 6 weeks in a repeating pattern to keep a house in a game you're not playing. You don't have to stay constantly subbed.

What's really dumb is people's insistence that they absolutely must own a house in a game they only play a few weeks a year at most.....

If SE follows their "normal pattern" (if you want to call adding 2 housing districts to the original 3 a pattern),....

I don't have anything to apologize for now nor will I when 7.0 is released. But at least we won't have to worry about your access to food for a few weeks because you're going to have a crazy amount of egg on your face.

As for demolition - it is always relevant to any discussion of housing supply in this game. ....

I disagree with the first statement; but given the experience is anecdotal I don't suspect either of us can prove it - if you go off the "I didn't get a house - I quit" posts then that would seem pretty indictive; but regardless; the point being that while you can "dodge" demo - your still coming back and paying a sub every 6 weeks; so thanks for proving the point there :-P.

I whole heartedly agree with the second point; the insane insistence that not having a house somehow means there is no point in playing is insane; I actually plan to tour the new wards next month on Coeurl Shiro and see how many houses are just a steward/bell and nothing else. I suspect it will be least 30% - but then again I think if SE gives everyone everything they want - they will merely leave/grow bored sooner. I think people having difficult to attain (but attainable) goals is good.

Masekase actually already made a compelling argument to that and I already acknowledged the flow. I mean mind you - thats FF in what...2028? If FF 14 still has the population it has now by then I think your looking at EQ level success there.

As for 7.0 I propose a wager then; IF by 7.0 there is not at least a announcement of more plots becoming available in the near future (such as saying in 7.x we are opening this district or adding wards) then I will happily eat 99 egg meals in game or your choosing; but you gotta be there to cheer me on. If I win however a screencap of us hugging with your apology - unless you have some adjustments you might propose for fun of it given we share the same world.

Your logic is a bit backward on demolition because referencing 3 years ago when the player base and supply were different is why your comparing two different situations. I propose the opposite; Demolition exists to increase housing supply by giving the houses of those who do not play - to those who do. If Demo did not exist; that would imply that SE has no issue with people not playing the game holding unto homes.