Housing Roulette was an absolute trash idea.

[Midareyukki]

I am biased since I have a house now, but remembering placard spamming for hours only to have a relocator pop in and take the house because of that stupid decision I never want to see anyone have to go through that hell again.

Exactly. People need to understand something. This system isn't perfect, but it's legit the best we can have right now.

Because we tries other systems before. They were trash. They were unhealthy. Like, physically so.

I don't want to go through that in any way.

Do I want this to be replaced by something better? Hells yes. And at best, giving everyone the chance to own a house would be interesting, but that's been discussed in other threads, it's not doable. But there's no "better idea" being put forward either in this thread. So complaining that the system is unfair outside of obvious salt isn't going to help.

Say what you will about this system. Unless you have a better idea, I do not want to see this be replaced by something that can be as unhealthy as the last ones were.

[Krotoan]

That wasn't even what was being discussed, LOL.

that was exactly what was being discussed. The old system had some "influence" in that you could have a better chance if you stood there clicking forever. People with actual things to do who want to play the game don't mind there being time investment if they can make the call as to when that time is spent and not have to worry about it being "optimal".

[Rufalus]

The amount of terrible that is in this idea is outrageous. Before they put an end to House scalping Larges on busy servers like Balmung were being sold for 500+ M

Tell me what you really feel! Well the true value of a large on Balmung is 500+M because the number of people who want one massively exceeds availability. There's still gonna be the same number of disappointed people unable to win that plot, but is it worse to give it to a random person or someone who grinded the most money for it while also fighting inflation by deleting another half billion gil from a rich guy.

Aside from that, I don't see why we can't have a system to sell our plots legitimately in-game the same way we sell anything. It would make plots available way more often than the demolition timer. Lots of people who realized they hardly use their home would be willing to list theirs to make a quick buck, also knowing they'd be able to get one back later if they change their mind by just buying someone else's.

[Zebraoracle]

So legit question, no snark as I am not a game developer and don't know how things work. People have argued that instanced housing for everyone isn't possible due to things like server space, but then they give everyone an island sanctuary.

My brain can't parse this just due to my own ignorance on the subject, someone mind explaining?

[MrJPtheAssassin]

Exactly. People need to understand something. This system isn't perfect, but it's legit the best we can have right now.

Because we tries other systems before. They were trash. They were unhealthy. Like, physically so.

I don't want to go through that in any way.

Do I want this to be replaced by something better? Hells yes. And at best, giving everyone the chance to own a house would be interesting, but that's been discussed in other threads, it's not doable. But there's no "better idea" being put forward either in this thread. So complaining that the system is unfair outside of obvious salt isn't going to help.

Say what you will about this system. Unless you have a better idea, I do not want to see this be replaced by something that can be as unhealthy as the last ones were.

Disagree we need to continue to complain about this system. You can't just settle bc it's the best we have right now. That mindset will only tell the devs to do nothing at all or take even longer to find a better system. This system is just as trash as the other system and we the paying customers deserve better for a company we pay $15 a month. Other mmos don't have as bad a housing system as ff14. Shoot genshin impact a gach game has a better housing system than ff14, a huge mmo owned by one of the biggest JP gaming companies in japan. We deserve better and we have the right to continue to complain about a bad system that only rewards the lucky. It's not our job to come up with better ideas, that's the devs job. I have already seen plenty of better ideas also. Make the apartments better, or allow housing on the island they already gave us. At the end of the day tho it's not our job to make the system better but it is our job as paying customs to let the dev team we are unhappy and we won't settle on a system that is less trash than the past systems.

[Amenara]

So legit question, no snark as I am not a game developer and don't know how things work. People have argued that instanced housing for everyone isn't possible due to things like server space, but then they give everyone an island sanctuary.

My brain can't parse this just due to my own ignorance on the subject, someone mind explaining?

Probably has something to do with the complexity of being able to have a differently designed a house for everyone vs having a pre-designed island that is the same for everyone.

[Rufalus]

So legit question, no snark as I am not a game developer and don't know how things work. People have argued that instanced housing for everyone isn't possible due to things like server space, but then they give everyone an island sanctuary.

My brain can't parse this just due to my own ignorance on the subject, someone mind explaining?

It's server performance issues rather than space. They could store more data, but increasing the amount of data being accessed simultaneously by the playerbase, if not managed carefully, can cause performance issues or world server crash. Sometimes we get blocked from entering our house or island temporarily if too many people are using theirs. You'd think it would be ok to have instanced plots if they just cap the number of people who can simultaneously access theirs, but I guess part of it is also just being committed to the systems they already designed and the ward concept.

[Vandrak]

Housing needs to be instanced, or unlimited wards. People can go back to an mmo they haven't played in 2 years and their house and guildhall will still be there. The housing in this game is ridiculous.

As much as they want to see people running around wards and stuff, it won't happen. People zone to their house, do what they need to do and zone somewhere else.

Instances or unlimited wards takes care of the problem.

[Soge01]

I keep forgetting when housing opportunities pop up. xD

[DiaDeem]

Yes it did, and no it wasn't. Me and all the friends I met spamming those placards got houses under that system. With that being said, we all spent waaaay too much time spamming (30+ hours collectively for me) and losing plots to transfers and bots. The old system was obviously bad, nobody in their right mind actually wants it back, I'm just saying at least there was a way to influence the outcome and that the lottery system is the laziest band-aid imaginable.

Yeah... I'm sorry about the lottery system messing you up, and I do get you, because we were hunting for an FC for about 3 months in 12 and 8 hr sessions non stop. I truly hope SE finds a way to address the issue more head on, because then there's THIS

See that actually upsets me.