It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Zsolen]

Well I for one do not want others seeing my character in the hideous current ilvl gear I have to wear for stats. How about you have the ability to disable my glamour, but I have the ability to disable your ability to disable my glamour so if I don't want to have my character perceived in a way, I'm not forced to.

That's not a solution. That defeats the whole purpose of the feature.

Edit: I looked at you character on lodestone. Some people would not like to see that type of clothing in a cutscene they are viewing for the first time.

[Bobby66]

Well I for one do not want others seeing my character in the hideous current ilvl gear I have to wear for stats. How about you have the ability to disable my glamour, but I have the ability to disable your ability to disable my glamour so if I don't want to have my character perceived in a way, I'm not forced to.

How would you know they are using it? Since you do not know how would it bother you? That is the crux of this entire thing people are saying they do not want others seeing them a certain way but you will not know outside of hyper niche situations. So why does it bother you? To me this is akin to get riled up over the possibility people are talking shit behind your back. You have no proof but you choose to let it bother because the mere possibility exists, it is 100% pure projections.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Then why are you so against the idea of someone not seeing it?



Again doesn't matter the intended use in the game it's in, only that it is a thing that is possible.

Again, for the 1000th time of having exactly the same dialogue, I'm not in favor of the devs working on an unnecessary performance option, called in GW2 "LOWEST QUALITY CHARACTER MODELS", when this wasn't even needed in the days of the PS3 being supported. Nor is "LOWEST QUALITY CHARACTER MODELS" being asked for in this thread. They want fashion-toggles that keep high fidelity models.

[Xylira]

Again, for the 1000th time of having exactly the same dialogue, I'm not in favor of the devs working on an unnecessary performance option, called in GW2 "LOWEST QUALITY CHARACTER MODELS", when this wasn't even needed in the days of the PS3 being supported. Nor is "LOWEST QUALITY CHARACTER MODELS" being asked for in this thread. They want fashion-toggles that keep high fidelity models.

It's easier just not to engage with this very loud and vocal minority of people whining over such a silly issue. They're very emotional and quick to engage in throwing out personal attacks over the issue. They're obsessed with trying to control how they see everything around them, while accusing everyone that doesn't immediately agree with them as having control issues. It's really kind of sad, they need to go touch some grass and calm down.

[ZephyrMenodora]

It's easier just not to engage with this very loud and vocal minority of people whining over such a silly issue. They're very emotional and quick to engage in throwing out personal attacks over the issue. They're obsessed with trying to control how they see everything around them, while accusing everyone that doesn't immediately agree with them as having control issues. It's really kind of sad, they need to go touch some grass and calm down.

Completely agree with everything you have said here Also just talking in circles, repeating the same things as though it hadn't been discussed ad naseum so there is really no point.

[Zsolen]

It's easier just not to engage with this very loud and vocal minority of people whining over such a silly issue. They're very emotional and quick to engage in throwing out personal attacks over the issue. They're obsessed with trying to control how they see everything around them, while accusing everyone that doesn't immediately agree with them as having control issues. It's really kind of sad, they need to go touch some grass and calm down.

Your side doesn't have a point is the issue. After over 300 pages, you should have come up with one by now.

Give us a valid point.

[Bobby66]

It's easier just not to engage with this very loud and vocal minority of people whining over such a silly issue. They're very emotional and quick to engage in throwing out personal attacks over the issue. They're obsessed with trying to control how they see everything around them, while accusing everyone that doesn't immediately agree with them as having control issues. It's really kind of sad, they need to go touch some grass and calm down.

Control issues? One side is requesting for an optional feature that allows for a more personal experience, and the other is saying no for one of two reason cost, or the fact they do not want others to hinder their self expression even though it is optional and they would have no idea someone is using said feature in the first place outside of niche situations.

Wouldn't you say the side that is getting riled up over the mere possibility of someone altering how their character looks is the more emotional one, verse the side just asking for a feature so both sides and live their own best life in game?

Which sounds more controlling, you are free to wear what you want but I would like the option to not see it only on my end, or if you do not want to see what I am wearing just do not play the game? One is a compromise other is an ultimatum.

[Joven]

Again, for the 1000th time of having exactly the same dialogue, I'm not in favor of the devs working on an unnecessary performance option, called in GW2 "LOWEST QUALITY CHARACTER MODELS", when this wasn't even needed in the days of the PS3 being supported. Nor is "LOWEST QUALITY CHARACTER MODELS" being asked for in this thread. They want fashion-toggles that keep high fidelity models.

I don't know about you, but before I was able to afford a GPU I had to use my motherboards onboard graphics to run the game. As such going into a hub city during peak hours was tantamount to display sucide. Having something to decrease certain graphical elements would benifit people looking to play but not having the hardware to do so.

That being said, as I've said the past two times: it's not about what the feature does in the game it's in, it's about the fact that something like being able to put other characters but your own in basic gear already exists elsewhere. But feel free to ignore that like you have been.

It's easier just not to engage with this very loud and vocal minority of people whining over such a silly issue. They're very emotional and quick to engage in throwing out personal attacks over the issue. They're obsessed with trying to control how they see everything around them, while accusing everyone that doesn't immediately agree with them as having control issues. It's really kind of sad, they need to go touch some grass and calm down.

....says the person throwing out personal attacks and being obsessed with controling what everyone sees around them...

[ty_taurus]

That's not a solution. That defeats the whole purpose of the feature.

Edit: I looked at you character on lodestone. Some people would not like to see that type of clothing in a cutscene they are viewing for the first time.

At what point does the rabbit hole end? I don't want to see Lalafells in my party because they break my immersion. I don't believe they would actually be effective in combat and it's ruining my fantasy. Can I have them replaced with Hyurs? I don't like glowing weapons. They're too bright. Can I turn off weapon particle effects? I don't like certain hairstyles like like the pompadour. Can I force everyone to be bald? DNC is a joke job and I don't think my warrior of light would be supported by a DNC. Can I make them replace their animations with BRD's?

At the end of the day, it's selfish to demand others look the way you want them to look in a game that, like it or not, is a multiplayer game.

[Xylira]

My last post on this ridiculous thread, because I refuse to feed this idiocy any further.

I've stated my points as to why I disagree with being able to disable seeing other's glamours, primarily because it undermines the spirit of the whole system. Yet you lot refuse to even acknowledge my point of view. In fact many of you keep claiming I haven't even presented an argument which is either dismissive and disingenuous at best, or delusional at worst. I've actually acknowledged that I understand your concerns, and I agree that it's not always fun seeing ridiculous glams all the time. That said, I simply disagree that chipping away at the integrity of the system by letting people optionally disable seeing other's glamours is more beneficial than harmful to the spirit of it.

It's simply a matter of opinion, on both sides, yet many of you can't even concede that other people are well within their right to disagree with your point of view. You just stick your fingers in your ears and go on rabid tirades of personal attacks against anyone that doesn't wholly agree with you.

Seriously, and I mean this sincerely, you need to chill out. It's not that big of a deal to see other people's glamours.