Primal drop system, still no changes?!

[Jinko]

At the same time you cant have 100% drop rate on anything though.

To me nothing in a MMO should come easy. You gotta work for it regardless if its a repetitive fight or some long stupid quest.

Nobody is asking for the complete weapon to drop 100% ...

What we/I want is a sense of progression when we do these fights, I want to feel like every time I win I am one step closer to getting my hand on the weapon that I want, right now it feels more like banging my head on brick wall.

I would be happy even if they removed the weapons from loot pool completely and only had 1 tokens drop 100% every time you killed them. (make the totems non-trade-able)

SE have to sort this loot problem out as people are getting frustrated and adding these fake road block will only turn players away in the long run. (we have had issues with the Primal loot since it was introduced and all Yoshi-p seem's to be doing is singing with his fingers in his ears)

A sense of progression is all I want really, doesn't seem so unreasonable to me.

[Jeffdogg]

Nobody is asking for the complete weapon to drop 100% ...

What we want is a sense of progression when we do these fights, I want to feel like every time I win I am one step closer to getting my hand on the weapon that I want right now it feels more like banging my head on brick wall.

Would a pop up message saying

"Good job!! Maybe next fight you will get the drop?"

be good enough?

[Sabaku_Usagi]

I've only beating Moogle about 5 times, and Ifrit about 15 times... but I can see just how frustrating this can be... I'm not looking forward to these abysmal drop rates... and what have I gotten out of it? 1 ifrit totem... /joy

[Jinko]

Would a pop up message saying

"Good job!! Maybe next fight you will get the drop?"

be good enough?

No because I know that people on here are at 100 fights and still hoping for next time.

[DoubleEcho]

Would a pop up message saying

"Good job!! Maybe next fight you will get the drop?"

be good enough?

That's like saying "Sorry but the princess is in another castle!". Except we knew there were only 8 goddamn castles, not 150!

[Kinseykinz]

I don't get why they can't make it that weapons drop to loot list, and anyone in the party who doesn't already have the weapon but DID enter with key items could be traded the item. I would much rather pass the axe to someone who needs it than have it clog my inventory. The totems,charms are just inventory cloggers and an un-needed step. Let us PASS weapons to who needs/wants. Let us decide how our group handles things....

GET RID OF THE TODEM SYSTEM!

[Elkwood]

Hello everyone!

We looked into increasing the drop rate and allowing each party member to receive a inferno totem or kupo nut charm with each winning encounter, but instead of touching up on the drop rate, we decided to make adjustments to the number of required totems and nut charms.

In patch 1.22, the below changes are what we have planned:

• Inferno Totems: 10 → 5
• Kupo Nut Charms: 20 → 10

The reason we decided on this change is because if we changed the drop rate, there would still be unlucky players who would complain that they can't get an item, so we decided to not play with the drop rate and instead just change the amount of items required for exchange for a weapon.

This is the most ass backwards logic I have seen. What is so hard about Saying if you get a weapon you get no totem, if you don't get a weapon you get a totem. Basic programming is simple

If A player gets A Weapon
Then T item = X
Else
T Item = 1

Really look at that amazing drop coding there

If players do not get totems then then get a weapon, I players don't get a weapon then they get a totem, after 10 runs they get 10 totems if they received 0 weapons, seriously if your programmers cannot figure this out then they need to have there heads examined and you need to stop low balling programmers and actually pay for decent ones.

[Jinko]

I don't get why they can't make it that weapons drop to loot list, and anyone in the party who doesn't already have the weapon but DID enter with key items could be traded the item. I would much rather pass the axe to someone who needs it than have it clog my inventory. The totems,charms are just inventory cloggers and an un-needed step. Let us PASS weapons to who needs/wants. Let us decide how our group handles things....

Because that would be too easy, everyone would be 7/7 in 2 weeks.

If SE allowed this they would make the drop rates even lower anyway which kind of defeats the purpose.

That's the beauty of a token system you can get 1 token every time and still walk away with something.

[Kinseykinz]

You mean like everyone is 7/7 on Dungeon gears? There is still only a chance for items to drop. I mean I've done several evenings of Ifrit/Moogle runs where no one got anything... not a weapon or even a charm. Keep weapon drop rate low, just let us pass them when they do drop.

[Jinko]

You mean like everyone is 7/7 on Dungeon gears? There is still only a chance for items to drop. I mean I've done several evenings of Ifrit/Moogle runs where no one got anything... not a weapon or even a charm. Keep weapon drop rate low, just let us pass them when they do drop.

Primals only drop 7 items though, Dungeons have multiple items, its completely difference.

Yea lets throw ourselves at content for hours, days and weeks and get nowhere fast... no thanks.