Primal drop system, still no changes?!

[xCid]

The idea is everyone would gain totem/nut 100% every fight...that's why you could add an exchange system in order to keep people going to the fights since rather than relying on the pure goodness of people's hearts, they'd also have an incentive to keep helping once they hit 7/7.

You can get up to 5k exp for any class per fight. That's pretty good incentive, if you really need incentive to help ls mates with these fights. If your 7/7 I don't think your doing pick-up parties?

I don't think SE should be giving us free stuff everytime we think we have something of value in our inventory, when in truth we don't. If your 7/7 and you have a totem in your inventory it's not valuable to you and SE shouldn't be give seals or gil for it.

Theres 8 people on a team, its not 7 people helping 1 guy farm weapons and totems. Weapons are rewarded to a player and totems/nuts are rewarded to the team not individual players and should be distirbuted to the people who need them despite who it falls on.

[Enma]

Really don't see any problem with current drop rates for Primals.

Good for you...

[Alise]

Darklight gear drop worse then Primal weapons anyway. So they should fix the primal drop rate already, because people will come and sink in this dungeons content instead :P

Thought, instead of those luck-drop system. honestly nowadays some modern MMO trend is starting with achievement-drop system instead now.

for example :
-Kill Ifrit for the first time => get to choose first weapon.
-Kill Ifrit for 10 times => get to choose second weapon.
-Kill Ifrit for 20 times => get to choose third weapon.
...

So the more greedy person will need to work more to get his collections, but it has mile stone to mark there so that he won't lose hope at his mid-way through. and Usually the idea for first kill to give first weapon is basically for a good memento for the first time wining, and also support for casual who not have much time and only do 1 class.

[Arcell]

The problem is not the low drop rates or the fact that it's mean to artificially draw out content or that the best weapons should be hard to get. The problem is that the weapons don't drop into your loot list so that you cannot pass them to players who may actually want/need them.

I do runs with my LS and we pass the totems and nuts to those who need or are close. However multiples of the same weapon have dropped to people who have no intention of playing that class as their main or at all. On the first drop it gives them a reason to go level that class now, given. However when the same weapon gets dropped multiple times to the same person, it is wasted. It cannot be taken by that player and is lost forever. That's awful, especially when there's often someone in the party who wants/needs that weapon.

[Slice]

Actually the drop rate of primals is really horrible, I've done more than 120 Ifrit's runs(and wins).
Now is also difficult to find people for Ifrit or Moogle and sincerely is boring doing the same battle for more than 100 times.
A good but not definitive solution may be to prevent primals from dropping weapons that you already possess.

@Arcell: good answer.

[Khazar]

i did over 70 times Ifrit and i have 2 weapons and 7 totems, it still need to be fixed, the drop system continues to be a big shit, it cant be possible that i do tens of ifrits for a weap.

[Robbie]

It's nothing more than a massive time sink to draw out content as there is very little of it. What I don't get is why ONLY the primals have this horrible drop system and everything else that drops can be passed. I would love a dev answer on just this alone.

[Lux_Rayna]

Honestly I think its just a matter of luck. I havent done ifrit more than 10 times and have gotten 3 weapons and 1 totem. 2 of the weapons were the ones I was actually looking for, harpoon and knuckles. My friend, who was doing runs with me, got 3 weapons over the course of 4 consecutive runs. Maybe it was 5 runs, can't quite remember how many we did that night.

Some ppl obviously have terrible luck, but that is hardly Square's fault. The drop rate is definitely not that bad; if they made it any better ppl could be 7/7 on ifrit in the matter of a day. Just keep running it and you'll get what you want eventually. It took me two or three nights of Ifrit to get what I wanted. Your mileage may vary.

The only thing i'd change with primal drops is to make weapons you don't want good for something.

[Zantetsuken]

I'm guessing they will boost/change Ifrit drops when Garuda is released (and likely give Garuda the current Ifrit drop rate.)


On unwanted weapons: we should be able to trade them in for GC seals like any other NM drop.

[Enma]

I'm guessing they will boost/change Ifrit drops when Garuda is released (and likely give Garuda the current Ifrit drop rate.)

I really hope so.