Gaia's Outfit on Mogstation

[Voltyblast]

Mass people will buy anyways in fact whatever they release in MOG store.

That's why SE keeps doing it, even if they put this exact outfit for 20-30 usd

It should be more expensive than that. Just to see when people will say "okay this is enough"

Although by then, it will be too late.

[LianaThorne]

It should be more expensive than that. Just to see when people will say "okay this is enough"

Although by then, it will be too late.

Tbh, price really won't matter to some just because of how much disposable income they have. Taking me as an example, I used to drop hundreds on a certain clothing based game (only reason I stopped was because it got boring overtime), so dropping $12 on an outfit here is like....not a big deal. However, there are people who spend way more than I ever could and $12 to them is a joke price to pay (like the people who spend thousands on Genshin every month type whale).

As long as whales exist and want to spend their money on stuff in video games (which is their right to do as it is their income and they ultimately can use it however they wish), hiking up a price isn't going to change much outside of limit who can buy it and at that point whales will just carry sales like they do in any other game.

[Voltyblast]

Tbh, price really won't matter to some just because of how much disposable income they have. Taking me as an example, I used to drop hundreds on a certain clothing based game (only reason I stopped was because it got boring overtime), so dropping $12 on an outfit here is like....not a big deal. However, there are people who spend way more than I ever could and $12 to them is a joke price to pay (like the people who spend thousands on Genshin every month type whale).

As long as whales exist and want to spend their money on stuff in video games (which is their right to do as it is their income and they ultimately can use it however they wish), hiking up a price isn't going to change much outside of limit who can buy it further. But people will continue to buy it regardless.

And yet I till want it to be more expensive. Because why not, if it's 30 or 50 it doesn't matter, whales will buy them. Besides, I do like how hypocritical it gets when other games do the same thing, and people rightfully attack them for their ways of cashing on a game that they already pay for.

But somehow this game does the same thing and everything's fine? Well okay, let's make it more expensive. Whales will still spend in the octilions but now there will be backlash. Not that it will matter of course, the damage's done. And I HIGHLY doubt my occasional purchases were a big factor into this.

It's only funny to me, because when it was new and dandy I did say - somewhere, I dunno, it's probably buried in my posts, too lazy to go search - that the cash shop might get out of hand and they might sell things unavailable elsewhere.

And now all I can say, is what we say here in my country: "You wanted the bike, now ride it"

[LianaThorne]

Yet Is till want it to be more expensive. Because I do like how hypocritical it gets when other games do the same thing, and people rightfully attack them for their ways.

But somehow this game does the same thing and everything's fine? Well okay, let's make it more expensive. Whales will still spend in the octilions but now there will be backlash. Not that it will matter of course, the damage's done.

It's only funny to me, because when it was new and dandy I did say - somewhere, I dunno, it's probably buried in my posts - that the cash shop might get out of hand and they might sell things unavailable elsewhere.

And now all I can say, is what we say here in my country: "You wanted the bike, now ride it"

I mean, the perspective of them doing the same thing depends on where you're coming from. I personally consider them to be cheap compared to the games I've played. One in particular I will always remember because they offered costume rentals for $25 and to outright buy it was $65-75. For the record, it was a F2P game.

So to me, $12 for an outfit is a steal.

Again, the perspective is going to be based on what you personally have experienced and ultimately all views are valid. If you come from a game where everything is free and a cash shop doesn't exist then its understandable that you'd have a negative view on it. Just, for people like me who have engaged with way worse costs, we have positive views on it.

Just my opinion but if 14 ever went F2P, I would not be shocked at all if Mog prices skyrocket to account for the lack of income from subs or if more predatory practices were put in place (like gacha like events or lootboxes for exclusive outfits).

[Voltyblast]

I mean, the perspective of them doing the same thing depends on where you're coming from. I personally consider them to be cheap compared to the games I've played. One in particular I will always remember because they offered costume rentals for $25 and to outright buy it was $65-75. For the record, it was a F2P game.

So to me, $12 for an outfit is a steal.

Again, the perspective is going to be based on what you personally have experienced and ultimately all views are valid. If you come from a game where everything is free and a cash shop doesn't exist then its understandable that you'd have a negative view on it. Just, for people like me who have engaged with way worse costs, we have positive views on it.

Just my opinion but if 14 ever went F2P, I would not be shocked at all if Mog prices skyrocket to account for the lack of income from subs or if more predatory practices were put in place (like gacha like events or lootboxes for exclusive outfits).

If the game is f2p I don't care what they put, it's "free" so the purchases can be as expensive as they want, since it's "optional".
Keyword being "optional", because that's what people kept repeating to me ad nauseam whenever I complained, and I will say the same to the others. If it's optional it's fine right? Then it's fine if it's also expensive, isn't it?

You say 12 dollars /9 euros is a steal, but you forget the 180 dollars/156 euros for the annual subscription you pay. I guess people forget that this isn't a b2p game that you buy once and forget about it, you actively pay a subscription. And it even gets more expensive if you purchase retainers - which is a scam but that's another topic entirely and I refuse to go further

If ffxiv went f2p and prices skyrocketed, It wouldn't be a problem considering it's all optional stuff...and if it's optional, then it's fine. Isn't it?

[LianaThorne]

If the game is f2p I don't care what they put, it's "free" so the purchases can be as expensive as they want, since it's "optional".
Keyword being "optional", because that's what people kept repeating to me ad nauseam whenever I complained, and I will say the same to the others. If it's optional it's fine right? Then it's fine if it's also expensive, isn't it?

You say 12 dollars /9 euros is a steal, but you forget the 180 dollars/156 euros for the annual subscription you pay. I guess people forget that this isn't a b2p game that you buy once and forget about it, you actively pay a subscription. And it even gets more expensive if you purchase retainers - which is a scam but that's another topic entirely and I refuse to go further

If ffxiv went f2p and prices skyrocketed, It wouldn't be a problem considering it's all optional stuff...and if it's optional, then it's fine. Isn't it?

Mog store is still optional now...is it not? I can't think of any items on there (apart from possibly fantasia for the non alt players that like to swap appearance a lot) that is a requirement for purchase. You could just pay your sub and ignore the cash shop.

Or am I misunderstanding what you mean?

[Voltyblast]

No, you haven't misunderstood anything. I simply want these optional items to be more expensive.

That is all.

As to why, there's no reason: it's optional, so it doesn't need to have a reason to be expensive. I just want them more expensive.

And if someone complains...here's the bike, now ride it.

[RobynDaBank]

Mog store is still optional now...is it not? I can't think of any items on there (apart from possibly fantasia for the non alt players that like to swap appearance a lot) that is a requirement for purchase. You could just pay your sub and ignore the cash shop.

Or am I misunderstanding what you mean?

I think they're just expressing distaste for the triple-dipping (buying expansion + subscription + the store).

[LianaThorne]

I think they're just expressing distaste for the triple-dipping (buying expansion + subscription + the store).

That's fair. Personally I think we should do away with buying expansions and just bundle that into the subscription model (outside of maybe paying a small fee for the option to have early access).

Or maybe go the ESO route where you can play for free but have to purchase expansions or an optional sub to have everything available to you content wise.

[Iscah]

No, you haven't misunderstood anything. I simply want these optional items to be more expensive.

That is all.

As to why, there's no reason: it's optional, so it doesn't need to have a reason to be expensive. I just want them more expensive.

And if someone complains...here's the bike, now ride it.

It sounds like you do have a reason, and the reason is spite.