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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    So your reply to my question is a question, instead of answering? You're essentially telling me that I'm not allowed to be bothered by something and simultaneously conceding that there's no harm in implementing this feature. You're advocating for me to 'look away' which would alter their visual appearance on my screen, since they would be gone from my screen. Yet you won't stomach the thought of being able to hide glamours.

    I guess people should just not be bothered about anything, then. Don't be bothered that headware for Viera/Hrothgar still hasn't been fixed, or any plethora of other grievances aired on these forums. These people should just not be bothered and go about their day.
    It wasn't directed at me. You didnt quote me, or name me, so I wasn't at liberty to answer. Cause you could have been talking to anybody.
    And no, dont put words in my mouth, I never said that at any capacity. I shouldn't have to repeat myself because Ive been pretty clear about this already....I have no power and dont dictate what is put into the game, none of us do. If this feature is put in, its up to the Devs, Director, and the company. If it IS there...whatever. But in my opinion I think its a silly feature. Because Glamours in a Videogame, are not that different from Fashion IRL. If you dont like it...ah well, just look away and go on about your day.

    Putting said feature in game doesn't harm anybody, the same can be said that not caring and looking away from Glams you don't like doesn't harm anybody.
    However one feature takes less dev time and is cheaper then the other option.

    Hrothgar/Viera and other general grievances have nothing to do with this conversation; Hiding Glamours. Be better if you stayed on topic instead of dragging in other unrelated topics.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    I'd be 100% OK with that and was even considering commenting this.

    I haven't glam'd in a long, long while and wouldn't care if I forfeit the ability to do so.
    You dont need to Sir.
    You are Transmoged as the Great Mandervile man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    It wasn't directed at me. You didnt quote me, or name me, so I wasn't at liberty to answer. Cause you could have been talking to anybody.
    And no, dont put words in my mouth, I never said that at any capacity. I shouldn't have to repeat myself because Ive been pretty clear about this already....I have no power and dont dictate what is put into the game, none of us do. If this feature is put in, its up to the Devs, Director, and the company. If it IS there...whatever. But in my opinion I think its a silly feature. Because Glamours in a Videogame, are not that different from Fashion IRL. If you dont like it...ah well, just look away and go on about your day.

    Putting said feature in game doesn't harm anybody, the same can be said that not caring and looking away from Glams you don't like doesn't harm anybody.
    However one feature takes less dev time and is cheaper then the other option.

    Hrothgar/Viera and other general grievances have nothing to do with this conversation; Hiding Glamours. Be better if you stayed on topic instead of dragging in other unrelated topics.
    Well, telling people to just go about their day is dismissing their issues with this. Everyone has things they are bothered by. I merely brought in the Hrothgar/Viera thing to highlight that point. It seems that people are bothered by seeing glamours they do not wish to see are being dismissed, while others grievances aired on this forum are more readily accepted. I wasn't trying to derail the thread so much as draw a comparison there. There are threads on the forums of people complaining about things that seem trivial to me, but I don't go into their threads and just dismissively tell them to go about their day and deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    Well, telling people to just go about their day is dismissing their issues with this. Everyone has things they are bothered by. I merely brought in the Hrothgar/Viera thing to highlight that point. It seems that people are bothered by seeing glamours they do not wish to see are being dismissed, while others grievances aired on this forum are more readily accepted. I wasn't trying to derail the thread so much as draw a comparison there. There are threads on the forums of people complaining about things that seem trivial to me, but I don't go into their threads and just dismissively tell them to go about their day and deal with it.
    Your point has nothing to do with the topic, it was a bad point to try and use in this situation.
    Comparing discussions about the lack of Glamour Options on 2 (well mostly 1) poorly handled race is not the same to advocating for Hiding everyones Glamours / Glamours you dont like. Its also a pretty poor point to say "well I dont just tell these people to deal with it" because....so what? We arn't talking about those topics, we are talking about This Topic on this Thread.

    And once again, I have to repeat this yet again. I find idea of the feature silly, but its not up to me if its added. If it is..cool whatever. I dont support it, but so what? Its an Opinion.
    I love and Im baffled how an opinion gets people so upset and they say they are being dismissed! If my opinion has that much power, I question if people really care about their own opinions, that they think they are so easily silenced and shut down because somebody has a different one.
    Its pretty unreal.

    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Why? that just seems like a spiteful concession you want because the suggestion upsets you.
    Its also abit spiteful to tell other people to "wear something else"
    As was said earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Your point has nothing to do with the topic, it was a bad point to try and use in this situation.
    Comparing discussions about the lack of Glamour Options on 2 (well mostly 1) poorly handled race is not the same to advocating for Hiding everyones Glamours / Glamours you dont like. Its also a pretty poor point to say "well I dont just tell these people to deal with it" because....so what? We arn't talking about those topics, we are talking about This Topic on this Thread.

    And once again, I have to repeat this yet again. I find idea of the feature silly, but its not up to me if its added. If it is..cool whatever. I dont support it, but so what? Its an Opinion.
    I love and Im baffled how an opinion gets people so upset and they say they are being dismissed! If my opinion has that much power, I question if people really care about their own opinions, that they think they are so easily silenced and shut down because somebody has a different one.
    Its pretty unreal.
    It could've been any point. I just chose that one because it was popular. For you to say it was a 'bad point' proves this went over your head. I'm saying that we don't often go into any thread and just tell people to deal with it and go about their day. No one is saying anything about silencing, but you certainly are being very dismissive of this glamour option. You're not bringing an opposing argument, just telling people to suck it up because you find this complaint to be trivial. I'll say it again, anyone can find anything to be trivial depending on their thoughts, preferences, etc.

    You're not silencing anyone, but if this glamour option holds no importance for you in whether it does or does not get implemented, I fail to see why you choose to so vehemently engage with this thread still, just to dismiss people who are for it as trivial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    It could've been any point. I just chose that one because it was popular. For you to say it was a 'bad point' proves this went over your head. I'm saying that we don't often go into any thread and just tell people to deal with it and go about their day. No one is saying anything about silencing, but you certainly are being very dismissive of this glamour option. You're not bringing an opposing argument, just telling people to suck it up because you find this complaint to be trivial. I'll say it again, anyone can find anything to be trivial depending on their thoughts, preferences, etc.

    You're not silencing anyone, but if this glamour option holds no importance for you in whether it does or does not get implemented, I fail to see why you choose to so vehemently engage with this thread still, just to dismiss people who are for it as trivial.
    Because you are on an open forum, does anybody even know what that is or even means? XD
    So if you have an idea, or a topic of discussion....it gets discussed. Either people agree, or disagree, maybe people see issues and want to work for a solution, other times is a bad idea and heres why, or here is another idea. These things happen, sometimes it goes into a fullon Debate.
    These things happen in an Open Forum.
    If you dont want to be challenged or hear any opinion or discussion that might possibly disagree with you, an Open Forum isn't the place for discussion.

    And, Im guessing you aren't paying attention....because I did bring the counter-argument that just simply ignoring and looking away from a glamour you dont like, is better, easier, and factually Cheaper then implement a Hide Glamour feature into the game. I didnt exactly word it that way originally, but that IS what I basically said.
    I also said adding in a Feature like this could take away time from other things that could be developed, and I even made a list; saying basically, this is how this feature would basically effect me.
    You sounded like you were reading the posts...but you somehow missed mine....that did in fact add to the conversation.

    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    but you and a few others seem to be incredibly upset and offended at the idea that not everyone wants the same thing as you.
    This point goes both ways on both sides of any, and every discussion, ever.
    ESPECIALLY this one.
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