Quote Originally Posted by Plasma711 View Post
You do realize 98% of this game is fan service right? Thats why the Four Fiends were here in the first place.
Ok sure. Let's see your examples.

Eden.
Was literally not even a character sure. It's literally a giant sineater we fight the raids in, and is actually not MSQ would you look at that.
The way they set Eden up is that it's this computer system you do that's not sentient (enough) to use their own actions. That's it.

I honestly have a lot more problems with the Eden story, but this is not the scope of the topic.

Omega. Chaos. Halicarnassus.
Only one character on this list is in the MSQ, and that's Omega. He was literally a part of the Shinryu story and was his foil.
And even in the raid series, he was trying to test us out by having us fight all these simulations. These simulations being literally just basic one-note parallel universe beings in design that is never meant to be talked to, and we never talk to unless we're fighting. Halicarnassus and Chaos is literally just stuck on their own respective floors and was never introduced in the MSQ, so yeah there's nothing to explore here.

They're throwaways, but they make sense to be throwaways considering Omega literally uses them to "test" our abilities. In fact, I'd go so far to say that these characters are a part of Omega's character exploration as well. It's an extension of him, puppets or familiars if you will.

Diabolos.
Not in the MSQ, but has an amazing build up in ARR. You see him in a bunch of Hard dungeons, trying to do something, and always just barely escaping after we beat him.
It all culminates into the Heavensward 24 man story which is one of the best payoffs I've seen and also intersects a lot with the PoTD story too.
He's very well explored for a "throwaway" character. If FFXIV treated the Fiends like Diabolos, I'd be plenty happy.


The list literally keeps going.
Oh yes it does. Let's keep going with one more.

Remember Eda? The healer who was blamed for letting their tank die, and was getting shit on by her party in the entrance to Satasha?

You literally see her as you go through ARR, and then it finally culminates into one of the hard dungeons where it's revealed that she's actually performed necromancy so she can get her abusive tank bf back to life, and then she falls off and then returns AGAIN to POTD, and then the story is actually finished.

... Actually maybe not, cause you can still see her around the citystates sometimes. Just watching you, like the creep she is.

For a throwaway character that's not in the MSQ, she's pretty damn well explored.


They take existing stories and characters from other main line titles and put them into XIV and create an "original" story around them to make it fit XIVs narrative. Yeah you're right you didnt mention IV, other than the fact you're ripping characters in XIV that literally came from IV, where bosses had less depth than a digital ant. Not sure what you wanted from them, they're pawns. They did what pawns do, only this time they had reasons and purpose behind it.
Yes. We are experiencing FFXIV's story and writing and literally anything else other than that is irrelevant.
It doesn't matter if I pick fucking idk, Kefka from FFVI, and put it in the story. I'll still apply the same standards that they have established from ALL THE WAY back to ARR to these characters.

I do not care where these people came from. I care if they're well written, and right now they absolutely aren't.

And don't tell me that the Fiends are literally the same as Chaos or Halicarnassus or Kefka in O8S. They're not.

We literally TALK to them. They're literally in the MSQ. They're the big baddies.
They should not be one note throwaway characters whose job is to be "HURR DURR I WILL EAT YOUR WOLRD WAAAAAAAA" like some basic highwayman in an RPG.