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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Not gonna be sarcastic or anything here, I'll take you at face value and explain why I don't think it should be nerfed, as someone who plays FL pretty regularly.

    Unlike, say, Ninja's LB where, so long as they're in the middle of a fight with a bunch of people dying, where they can instakill over and over and over, DRGs LB is a single, one shot, shoot-it-then-loose-it k/o. If you see the circle, you have time to pop guard and run away. You're not stuck in place, and if you are you can pop cleanse then guard, because the LB is so dang *visual*.

    DRK on the other hand, I can't say anything for because I don't really remember DRKs in my FLs.
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    Dionysius's Avatar
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    Zeack Crosse
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Not gonna be sarcastic or anything here, I'll take you at face value and explain why I don't think it should be nerfed, as someone who plays FL pretty regularly.

    Unlike, say, Ninja's LB where, so long as they're in the middle of a fight with a bunch of people dying, where they can instakill over and over and over, DRGs LB is a single, one shot, shoot-it-then-loose-it k/o. If you see the circle, you have time to pop guard and run away. You're not stuck in place, and if you are you can pop cleanse then guard, because the LB is so dang *visual*.

    DRK on the other hand, I can't say anything for because I don't really remember DRKs in my FLs.
    If you don't remember any DRK in your FLs then this is not an issue in your region, but this is definitely a big issue in my Data Centre where 2-3 DRKs + 5-6 DRGs can dominate against 48 players from both GC.
    I understand you never met group that coordinate DRK+DRG easily to win against 2 other GCs, but doesn't mean this is not a problem.
    This is not a," 5 vs 5, there are 2 DRGs using LB oh let's Guard and then run" problem.

    My last statement for those still don't understand the problem:
    - For comparison SMN/WHM only deal 18,000 (before -10% from Job nerf) and DRG 30,000 (without BH). On top of that SMN only get -30% dmg taken while DRG -60%.
    - They easily accumulate BH5 because DRG is range job advertised as melee in FL, high survivability. They just wait for LB and never engage in melee combat.
    - Add another 50% from BH5, they easily wiped both GCs with 45,000 dmg just from 1 DRG.

    Again, this combination make DRK and DRG an easy way for a group to cheese their way for a win and it's not fun meeting them.
    Even if I joined their group, it feels cheap and unbalanced to just "destroy" everyone.
    Go ahead next time you run FL and arrange a DRK+DRG party and cheese your way to get an easy win at the expense of 48 others frustration. Then come back and tell me it's "fun" don't need to nerf them.

    They nerfed SMN and WHM early on when there are many people trying the new mode.
    But less people are doing it now so they ignore the new problem, doesn't mean they shouldn't try to balance it.
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    Kathleen_'s Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dionysius View Post
    If you don't remember any DRK in your FLs then this is not an issue in your region, but this is definitely a big issue in my Data Centre where 2-3 DRKs + 5-6 DRGs can dominate against 48 players from both GC.
    Bro I guarantee you, if the west had the culture of following the leader and their burst macros the same people shitting on you right now would actually agree with you. lmao
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    Daca'a Fashonti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dionysius View Post
    No wonder the game keeps getting easier and easier to catter for these people.
    you are crying for a nerf for something you can counter with one button

    next time you see 5-6 DRGs jump into the air for their lb, press the funny 90% mit button and see if you're still standing or not

    please think more about what you can do to prevent getting owned by a play that requires that much co-ordination instead of demanding a nerf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naizakane View Post
    you are crying for a nerf for something you can counter with one button

    next time you see 5-6 DRGs jump into the air for their lb, press the funny 90% mit button and see if you're still standing or not

    please think more about what you can do to prevent getting owned by a play that requires that much co-ordination instead of demanding a nerf
    Player like you that place Guard at such high place clearly don't even touch FL and yet have the audacity to come here and making fun of others.
    Guard is useless when you have so many others jobs that can disable it at wide range with a single button, bruh...
    You went over your head thinking you're smarter than others just because you have the knowledge of Guard -90% dmg taken, lmao.. what a joke.
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